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Re:Learnings from fine-tuning LLM on my Telegram messages by greiskul on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @12:57AM (#38442832)
> like WhatsApp are less secure

WhatsApp uses end to end encryption by default. In fact, it uses the library that Signal developed. It is much more secure than Telegram, unless proved otherwise (which would need some backdoor in the application code to change its behavior).

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Re:Learnings from fine-tuning LLM on my Telegram messages by furiousteabag on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @01:15AM (#38442930)
It doesn't really matter if the app claims to use E2E when it actually discloses message content [0] [1]. WhatsApp is also filled with backdoors [2].

[0] https://therecord.media/fbi-document-shows-what-data-can-be-...

[1] https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/what...

[2] https://telegra.ph/Why-Using-WhatsApp-Is-Dangerous-01-30-4

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Re:Learnings from fine-tuning LLM on my Telegram messages by rolisz on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @02:17AM (#38443277)
0 and 1 don't support your claim that WhatsApp discloses message content. those two links explicitly say WhatsApp doesn't give messages to the FBI.
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Re:Learnings from fine-tuning LLM on my Telegram messages by throwaway29812 on Wednesday November 29, 2023 @03:57PM (#38465210)
Also[2] claims backdoors, which is impossible to prove. They could just be bugs that were exploited (and fixed).
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Re:Learnings from fine-tuning LLM on my Telegram messages by behnamoh on Tuesday November 28, 2023 @01:12AM (#38442908)
the fact that the iranian regime blocks telegram, messenger, instagram, signal, etc. but has no problem with whatsapp makes me worried that the app probably cooperates with the regime and complies with their data requests.
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