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Re:The N.Y.P.D. Is Upgrading Its Radios. The Public Won't Be... by jchw on Sunday November 26, 2023 @07:30PM (#38426699)
I don't really see why this is similar to the usual E2EE argument. these communications are public record on purpose, whereas people's personal conversations are not.

Bringing that into this is pointless, especially since I doubt this is E2EE in the same sense that private chats are.

Re:The N.Y.P.D. Is Upgrading Its Radios. The Public Won't Be... by giantg2 on Sunday November 26, 2023 @07:39PM (#38426760)
These communications also contain personal and sometimes sensitive information of citizens.
Re:The N.Y.P.D. Is Upgrading Its Radios. The Public Won't Be... by jchw on Sunday November 26, 2023 @07:47PM (#38426806)
I can see how that is an issue, but I still think bringing the E2EE argument in here is completely beside the point, and I think your point here serves to illustrate that: if a private chat didn't contain potentially sensitive information, it wouldn't make it any more reasonable to argue against being able to encrypt it. It may very well be that what the NYPD is doing is ultimately the right way to go, but you can't get there by comparing it to the typical E2EE debate.
Re:The N.Y.P.D. Is Upgrading Its Radios. The Public Won't Be... by giantg2 on Sunday November 26, 2023 @07:53PM (#38426842)
I'm not comparing it to E2EE. I'm stating there is personal information in the messages. The subject doesn't have a choice to how that information is transmitted or protected. There should be a duty for the government to protect that person's info if they have the power to force the person to disclose it.

Most recording are not by default public record either. Oftentimes it needs to be censored before being released to protect sensitive information, like subject addresses, license numbers, etc.

Re:The N.Y.P.D. Is Upgrading Its Radios. The Public Won't Be... by jchw on Sunday November 26, 2023 @07:55PM (#38426853)
I see. Yeah, that doesn't really have anything to do with what I was replying about honestly, so this is more of a tangent.
Re:The N.Y.P.D. Is Upgrading Its Radios. The Public Won't Be... by giantg2 on Sunday November 26, 2023 @08:07PM (#38426935)
It was mostly meant as an add-on response to your parent.