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Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by glitchcrab on Saturday November 25, 2023 @12:29PM (#38414912)
I know naming things is hard, but Helm has been in use as a tool in the Kubernetes ecosystem for years now.

https://helm.sh/

Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by pkd on Sunday November 26, 2023 @12:52AM (#38419479)
Was an Emacs package before that.
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by glitchcrab on Sunday November 26, 2023 @03:50AM (#38420166)
TIL; thanks.
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by headhasthoughts on Sunday November 26, 2023 @12:54AM (#38419486)
Pretty sure EMACS beat Kubernetes to the punch. This Helm, too, is pretty old now.

Complaining about names is ridiculous. There are only so many names to go around, and there's almost no overlap in use-case or userbase between a synthesizer and a throwaway piece of business software for Yet Another Soulless Cloud Ecosystem.

Naming things isn't hard. What's hard is that people feel possessive over English words. You probably share your name with hundreds of thousands of people in your country.

Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by glitchcrab on Sunday November 26, 2023 @03:48AM (#38420158)
Comparing names of products to names of people simply doesn't make sense. Ideally you want to pick a name for your product which stands out and people will remember. You shouldn't need to clarify by saying 'use Kubernetes Helm' or 'use the synthesiser Helm'.

However people aren't usually named this way, and so you cannot compare names this way.

Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by 000ooo000 on Sunday November 26, 2023 @01:04AM (#38419544)
First release of Kube Helm: Feb 2016

Earliest commit in the synth Helm repo: 2013

Earliest commit in the Emacs Helm repo: <=2007

First time someone called a ship helm a helm: ???

First time a Viking called a helmet a helm: ???

So, who cares really

Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by glitchcrab on Sunday November 26, 2023 @03:45AM (#38420151)
You're extrapolating a bit too far here; it somewhat detracts from the point you're trying to make.
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by TaylorAlexander on Sunday November 26, 2023 @01:22AM (#38419597)
Yeah they really should have checked out the Helm synth before they named the Kubernetes thing!
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by glitchcrab on Sunday November 26, 2023 @03:49AM (#38420165)
Good point; I assumed that it was being posted here because it was a new project. My point still stands though, but in the opposite direction.
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by computershit on Sunday November 26, 2023 @02:26AM (#38419858)
If I was looking for a virtual synth deck and came to you asking for a recommendation and you said Helm but actually meant the Kubernetes Helm not the synth Helm, you would have a very solid point. But you would also be an idiot.
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by gala8y on Sunday November 26, 2023 @03:55AM (#38420181)
Hint, hint.
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by glitchcrab on Sunday November 26, 2023 @04:59AM (#38420467)
Quite, because who would actually do that?
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by frenchman99 on Sunday November 26, 2023 @02:43AM (#38419915)
Do you know that "Helm" is a German word for "helmet"? That's what happens when you name a project after a dictionary word.
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by glitchcrab on Sunday November 26, 2023 @05:16AM (#38420537)
I did not; TIL!
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by failedartifact on Sunday November 26, 2023 @03:43AM (#38420142)
But you could not tell which helm was being referred to on the HN news link title, a (Synth) or (Kubernetes) would do. OP has a good point.
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by glitchcrab on Sunday November 26, 2023 @03:44AM (#38420147)
To be fair, it's been pointed out to me that quite a few projects which I wasn't aware of are named Helm. But this does further reinforce my point.
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by joshmanders on Sunday November 26, 2023 @09:54AM (#38421992)
If you came into the comments section to discuss Kubernetes Helm before opening the link and understanding what it was referring to, then that's on you not the project.
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by gtirloni on Sunday November 26, 2023 @04:34AM (#38420365)
And all these audiophiles didn't know about this completely different app in an area they probably don't even know exists? Serenity now!
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by GaryNumanVevo on Sunday November 26, 2023 @05:14AM (#38420528)
Of course this is _very_ difficult for me, a DevOps engineer who deploys VSTs via Kubernetes, but I think I'll survive
Re:Helm by Matt Tytel by glitchcrab on Sunday November 26, 2023 @05:30AM (#38420587)
Well if you can't cope then you should probably be looking for a new job ;)