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Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by justrealist on Friday November 24, 2023 @10:52AM (#38405146)
California was almost empty when it was annexed into the US. Disease etc. Immigration from the rest of the English-speaking US completely dwarfed what was left.

Almost 100% of Spanish-speaking Californians have come in the past 50-70 years. Basically none have historical roots to California.

Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by eduardo_f on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:08AM (#38405333)
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by aegypti on Friday November 24, 2023 @12:29PM (#38406185)
…the 15.2 million California Hispanics, who total 40% of California's population. 2004 studies estimated that between 300,000 and 500,000 have ancestry descended from the Spanish and Mexican eras of California

Parent comment is mostly correct, californios are an insignificant part of California in comparison to eg Tejanos.

Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by Spooky23 on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:10AM (#38405358)
I'd imagine in a 70 year timeline, easily 80% of the population has no historical roots to California!
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by 29athrowaway on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:17AM (#38405435)
Not accurate.

What is known as the American state of California was part of the state of Alta California in Mexico, which was annexed by the US during the Mexican American war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alta_California

Years later, the Mexicans as well as their descendants, who were Americans by Jus soli (birthright citizenship) were ethnically cleansed during the Mexican Repatriation, where they were kidnapped, put into buses and trucks and sent to Mexico.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation

Many Mexicans are mestizos (mixed with Native Americans), so they have a deeper connection to the land dating to tens of thousands of years and this is reflected in the population genetic haplogroups.

Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by justrealist on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:25AM (#38405554)
No, those were more recent immigrants. Read your own link.

I am talking about at time of annexation, 1847.

Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by 29athrowaway on Friday November 24, 2023 @12:16PM (#38406065)
Mestizos have a stronger connection to the land than European settlers.
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by justrealist on Friday November 24, 2023 @12:41PM (#38406287)
Nobody has any connection to the land, people are not plants.
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by stmichel on Friday November 24, 2023 @04:02PM (#38408303)
So if you get shipped to Turkmenistan tomorrow that wouldn't be a problem right?
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by justrealist on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:36PM (#38410644)
There are a lot of open questions here but yes I hope my kids and grandkids would be afforded the same rights as native Turkmen.
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by mistrial9 on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:18AM (#38405448)
certain native people had trading routes that went all the way from Central America up to Washington State.

source: a group that still does this, and has land near Mt Shasta too

Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by TMWNN on Saturday November 25, 2023 @02:33PM (#38415943)
>California was almost empty when it was annexed into the US. Disease etc. Immigration from the rest of the English-speaking US completely dwarfed what was left.

>Almost 100% of Spanish-speaking Californians have come in the past 50-70 years. Basically none have historical roots to California.

Correct. I go into more detail on why this is the case elsewhere. <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38415835>