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Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by jjgreen on Friday November 24, 2023 @10:50AM (#38405115)
The UK does not have an official language.
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by switch007 on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:10AM (#38405361)
De facto it does

De jure, Wales does

Cambridge Dictionary defines official language as:

> the language or one of the languages that is accepted by a country's government, is taught in schools, used in the courts of law, etc.

There is no debate whatsoever that English meets that criteria in the UK

Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by jameshart on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:27AM (#38405571)
But by that criterion the US also has an official language.
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by switch007 on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:29AM (#38405585)
Yes, the de facto language of the US is English.

What's your argument there?

Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by sin7 on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:53AM (#38405851)
De facto is not the same as official.
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by switch007 on Friday November 24, 2023 @12:44PM (#38406328)
Not much of an argument but when it comes to English it is. “Official” as in widely and universally recognised and accepted by government authorities? English in the UK (and US) absolutely is

Though now we’re just descending in to semantics which is not very entertaining

Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by hot_gril on Friday November 24, 2023 @03:19PM (#38407790)
California recognizes Spanish quite a bit, including on official forms like the DMV.
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by OnlyMortal on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:04AM (#38405290)
Correct. It’s the defacto.

Indeed, there’s even no official version of English unlike, say, French and Dutch.

Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by jjgreen on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:21AM (#38405503)
That there is no Académie anglaise is a fact which surprises and appalls the French.
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by switch007 on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:26AM (#38405560)
The degree to which we do not care what the French think about our lack of an official body overseeing and dictating the language of English can not be accurately described in words. We would have to invent a new unit of measurement to measure it. :)
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by jjgreen on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:41AM (#38405733)
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by switch007 on Friday November 24, 2023 @12:46PM (#38406356)
By that scale it’s “no shits given”
Re:Almost half of Californians speak a non-English language ... by HKH2 on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:44AM (#38405770)
Prescriptivism only gets you so far.