Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf...
by zarzavat on Thursday November 23, 2023 @04:19PM
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Whether or not people want AGI, corporations definitely want it, as long as the cost of an AGI worker is less than the cost of a human worker. So perhaps we should prepend a C for “cheap” to the term AGI.
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Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf...
by RandomLensman on Thursday November 23, 2023 @04:27PM
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How do you know what corporations exactly want? What c-suite has spec'd out what they want from a machine generally replacing humans? Would you really want faster horses instead of cars?
Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf...
by fragmede on Thursday November 23, 2023 @04:42PM
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abstracted out to the c-suite level, cars are just faster horses. the ceo needs an item moved from location X to location Y, and it will cost Z dollars and take T time. doesn't matter if it's by car or boat or train or horse or donkey or a person on a bicycle.
Or say, the logistics of, say, warehouse management. it costs V dollars for a team of people to do the job by hand, W dollars for a forklift, X dollars for a forklift operator; compare V to W + X. If there's a machine that can do the same for office jobs, the math will be done.
Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf...
by RandomLensman on Thursday November 23, 2023 @04:50PM
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Based on my experience with large corporate transformations, I'd be amazed if it were done that way. Usually, (simple) math isn't really that important.
Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf...
by fragmede on Thursday November 23, 2023 @08:57PM
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not doubting your experience, what is important then, that you've seen?
Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf...
by RandomLensman on Friday November 24, 2023 @02:14AM
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Very roughly: where the future business is coming from, what the future capabilities should be, how a new organisation should look like, what change can actually be accomplished, how to manage that change, required skills & infrastructure, how to get them. Then there is a whole legal ans compliance arc somewhere.
Only when the change is small and local is it getting close to a math thing, but a large rollout of technology is a big thing already today.
Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf...
by fragmede on Friday November 24, 2023 @08:23AM
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The canonical example isn't forklift workers, but car recalls. If the cost of the recall is X, and the cost of settling wrongful death lawsuits over the defective part is Y. If X > Y, don't do the recall. How true that is, idk, but the cynic in me believes it.
Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf...
by bamboozled on Friday November 24, 2023 @10:35AM
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I actually don't think corporations want it. In fact I think MS wants OpenAI to dumb ChatGPT down.
AGI is a major existential threat to companies, I mean we could use AGI to completely replace Microsoft, you wouldn't need companies anymore. All the wealth and power is in jeopardy.
Maybe companies are secretly gunning for "getting the first AGI", but I bet there is plenty of oversight and corporate governance going on too.
Re:After OpenAI's blowup, it seems pretty clear that 'AI saf...
by mensetmanusman on Friday November 24, 2023 @04:08PM
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yeah, it's gonna be funny when AI is able to rewrite all the software we make and use for free...