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Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by 3seashells on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @01:01PM (#38382648)
It's people having families that is the ultimate corrupt or. If worst comes to worst thy values come first on the chopping block..

One of the reasons old people can't look each other in the eye, is that they all have seen what they are willing to do to each other to get junior a good start in life.

Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by emodendroket on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @01:34PM (#38383158)
Having children can awake antisocial impulses in people but it can awake prosocial impulses just as easily and just as strongly.
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by NoMoreNicksLeft on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @02:26PM (#38383890)
Sure, if I look at their kids and think to myself "hey, those might make good husbands/wives for my own kids when they grow up".
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by emodendroket on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:46PM (#38384858)
Should I take it to be some kind of Freudian slip that you’ve written “myself” rather than “themselves” here?
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by NoMoreNicksLeft on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @05:15PM (#38385938)
I'm half senile, and so when you replied I wondered if I did that.

But re-reading it several times now, I don't see it. When I look at their kids and think to myself "hey, they might make good husbands/wives for my own kids" where is the Freudian?

I am on the lookout for my kids. I can't tell them who to marry, but I can put them in circumstances where there are people their age that I approve of, such that familiarity might blossom into something more. I've seen how it turns out with other people's kids when they act like that's none of their business and actively avoid the thinking, and I don't much like the outcomes.

Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by emodendroket on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @10:12PM (#38388772)
My parents had a lot of ideas about my romantic life too, none of them particularly good or welcome and none of which I listened to. Maybe you'll have better luck.
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by nl on Thursday November 23, 2023 @01:28AM (#38389981)
I'm not the OP, but you realize that implying they were looking at the kids as spouses for themselves is extremely creepy right?

(Not that I agree with what the OP said either - I think most people have a protective instinct towards all children without thinking of them as potential spouses for their own offspring. We see this behavior in other primates too, eg: https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2021/mountain-gorillas-ad... )

Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by emodendroket on Thursday November 23, 2023 @02:07AM (#38390214)
I think you've misread me. My point was the guy seemed to be suggesting some general human tendency towards extreme self-interest but then used personal pronouns ("I think to myself"). Not that people are generally seeking child brides. If you look at the position of the word "myself" your interpretation does not really fit.
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by jsnell on Thursday November 23, 2023 @02:16AM (#38390265)
Sure, but everybody generalizes from one example. Well, at least I do.
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by nl on Thursday November 23, 2023 @08:12AM (#38392376)
No, as can be seen by the other comments in this thread the use of "myself" there is entirely appropriate.

He is using personal pronouns consistently: "myself" and "my children". "Their" children is the other children he is observing, and he is thinking to himself.

Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by emodendroket on Thursday November 23, 2023 @11:50AM (#38394723)
Then again given your bizarre reading of my post how much should I really trust your interpretation.
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by nl on Thursday November 23, 2023 @06:58PM (#38399204)
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by emodendroket on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:50AM (#38405827)
What you have linked me to is not what it means but an association many people have. It will say so on that very page if you scroll up.
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by dekhn on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @06:52PM (#38386964)
No, not the way it's written.
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by starcraft2wol on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @02:03PM (#38383595)
This is a very strange comment. Yes people often get territorial about their kids. This is long shot to evil, corruption, or not looking each other in the eye.
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by 3seashells on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:39PM (#38384780)
Really? What about people not in the in-group, not in your tribe?
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by starcraft2wol on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @06:00PM (#38386409)
People without kids have that problem. This poster is talking about having children causing an evil change in personal character.
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by sdenton4 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @07:04PM (#38387127)
Kids often bring out the worst level of 'fuck you, got mine' politicking in humans. All that school segregation stuff in the 60's? Parents 'protecting' their children. Same for the school segregation stuff in the 2010's.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/podcasts/nice-white-paren...

Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by sage76 on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @02:14PM (#38383731)
Idk why you are downvoted. It's become a cultural trope to use "I did it for my family" as an excuse to justify absolutely heinous stuff.
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by 3seashells on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:17PM (#38384551)
To close to home for many? Then again this is what life is about from moralphilosophical view. A body horror show with a "what have I become" at the end? Spoilers not welcome?
Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by surgical_fire on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:39PM (#38384777)
This presumes that people with no children are somehow less horrible.

In truth, all humans are equally worthless.

Re:Reflecting on 18 Years at Google by 3seashells on Thursday November 23, 2023 @12:09PM (#38394934)
Less incentives to be all out horrific in large groups with distributed responsibilities?