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Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by khazhoux on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:40AM (#38376651)
> In reality, we can and should be outraged when corporations betray their own statements and supposed values.

There are only three groups of people who could be subject to betrayal here: employees, investors, and customers. Clearly they did not betray employees or investors, since they largely sided with Sam. As for customers, that's harder to gauge -- did people sign up for ChatGPT with the explicit expectation that the research would be "open"?

The founding charter said one thing, but the majority of the company and investors went in a different direction. That's not a betrayal, but a pivot.

Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by Angostura on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @04:01AM (#38376806)
I think there’s an additional group to consider- society at large.

To an extent the promise of the non- profit was that they would be safe, expert custodians of AI development driven not primarily by the profit motive, but also by safety and societal considerations. Has this larger group been ‘betrayed’? Perhaps

Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by biscottigelato on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @05:38AM (#38377479)
Also donors. They received a ton of donations when they were a pure non-profit from people that got no board seat, no equities, with the believe that they will stick to their mission.
Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by Wytwwww on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @05:56AM (#38377615)
Not unless we believe that OpenAI is somehow "special" and unique and the only company that is capable of building AGI(or whatever).
Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by master-lincoln on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @06:14AM (#38377728)
> Clearly they did not betray employees or investors, since they largely sided with Sam

Just because they sided with Altman doesn't necessarily mean they are aligned. There could be a lack of information on the employee/investor side.

Re:We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to retu... by denton-scratch on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @03:40PM (#38384792)
> There are only three groups of people who could be subject to betrayal here

GP didn't speak of betraying people; he spoke of betraying their own statements. That just means doing what you said you wouldn't; it doesn't mean anyone was stabbed in the back.