FBI director admits they rarely have probable cause for using NSA collections

Re:FBI director admits they rarely have probable cause for u... by underseacables on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @04:30PM (#38370495)

Interpretation is an issue, just look at the way President Biden, and President Trump are being treated with regards to retention of classified documents. One is being prosecuted, the other is not. That's a very broad and public example, but the party in power typically does not prosecute its own.

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Re:FBI director admits they rarely have probable cause for u... by kelnos on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @07:07PM (#38372535)

Well.

One person retained said documents, bragged about having them, disclosed their contents to random, non-cleared people, lied about having declassified them, and then when the government asked them back, lied again and claimed he didn't have them, instructed his underlings to hide or destroy them, and obstructed the subsequent investigation.

The other person didn't realize he had them, returned them promptly when they were found, and cooperated with the ensuing investigation.

If you really think these two things are the same, I'm not sure you're going to have a productive conversation with anyone who wants to argue in good faith.

Also note that it's not just Biden who fell into that second category; Pence did as well. Funny how you didn't see the need to mention Pence. And good on him for also cooperating and returning what he had.

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Re:FBI director admits they rarely have probable cause for u... by hellojesus on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @01:15PM (#38382868)

I agree. Of all the legal proceedings against Don, this is the most appropriate imo.

But... There is one thing that gives me pause about the Biden case. It is understood that Hunter had some capacity of access to the home [1]. Likely this overlapped with his hard drug and prostitute lifestyle. What are the chances that a state sponsored person managed entry to the house with Hunter and then had free reign of it while he slept or was in a drugged state? Does this factor into the risk assessment of the forgotten documents and culpability of Joe?

I admit I'm biased as I don't like Joe, so would prefer he is a one term president.

[1] https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-joe-biden-classified-d...

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Re:FBI director admits they rarely have probable cause for u... by bdzr on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @04:44PM (#38370701)

One turned over the classified documents.

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Re:FBI director admits they rarely have probable cause for u... by ikiris on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @04:44PM (#38370700)

Do you think this is a good faith argument? What might be differences in these situations that aren't based on simple "other party bad"?

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Re:FBI director admits they rarely have probable cause for u... by bunabhucan on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @04:52PM (#38370823)

One is being charged with obstruction and retaining documents. There's no evidence of obstruction for Biden or Pence. If either of them told their attorney to "hide or destroy" documents then they would be receiving the same treatment.

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Re:FBI director admits they rarely have probable cause for u... by hellojesus on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @01:15PM (#38382878)

Yet Hillary did both as was not prosecuted.

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Re:FBI director admits they rarely have probable cause for u... by PawgerZ on Wednesday November 22, 2023 @10:00AM (#38380124)

You really are the "quintessential affable sales person." With the way you twist narratives, I suspect you sell a lot of networking equipment.

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