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Re:My Free Speech Means You Have to Shut Up by Yoric on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:06AM (#38359549)
I don't know about that. As a reader, I find that "Jewish Communities" very much sounds like "All Jews" and "Muslim Communities" very much sounds like "All Muslims". If that's not what the authors mean, I'm sure that there are much, much better phrasings.
Re:My Free Speech Means You Have to Shut Up by rpmisms on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:09AM (#38359564)
That may very well be your own bias. If I say "Christian Communities hate gays", you'll probably think of one or two specific communities. When I saw "Jewish Communities" in gp's headline, I immediately thought "oh, the ADL", because they're bigots and don't really hide it.
Re:My Free Speech Means You Have to Shut Up by vacuity on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:13AM (#38359602)
Everyone has biases, and you're not exempt. If you know that your language might be grossly misinterpreted, consider changing it, if only for your own image.

> If I say "Christian Communities hate gays", you'll probably think of one or two specific communities.

That might be true for me, but I'm thinking of "Protestant Christian evangelicals and co." as one community, so...

Re:My Free Speech Means You Have to Shut Up by rpmisms on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:47AM (#38359858)
> If you know that your language might be grossly misinterpreted, consider changing it, if only for your own image.

No, if only to make a point.

> That might be true for me, but I'm thinking of "Protestant Christian evangelicals and co." as one community, so...

Yup. What I expected. I'm positively full of bias, and happy to admit it.

Re:My Free Speech Means You Have to Shut Up by vacuity on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @01:13AM (#38360023)
And my point is that "Muslim communities bombed Israel" is not an obviously reasonable statement. If Reuters or AP posted an article with that phrasing, I'd wonder if some party other than Hamas was fighting Israel now. At that point, why not just say "Muslims bombed Israel"? It's technically true but also wildly disingenuous. You'd have to qualify it with a bunch of details in order to make it an honest, good-faith statement.
Re:My Free Speech Means You Have to Shut Up by rpmisms on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @02:08AM (#38360364)
But it's the literal truth, and using a descriptor on a group of people acting does not attribute the action to all people who fit the descriptor. Not all mammals are dogs, and that shouldn't need to be said.
Re:My Free Speech Means You Have to Shut Up by Yoric on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @03:59AM (#38361154)
You're confusing semantics and subtext.

The clear subtext in your examples is "Jews" (not "some Jews"), "Muslims" (not "some Muslims"), "Christians" (not "some Christians"). A racist (or variant thereof) will not say "all Jews"/"all Muslims"/"all Gays"/... , they'll just casually namedrop "Jews" (or even a single Jewish personality), "Muslims" (or even a single Muslim personality), "Gays" (or even a single Gay personality), and use this as a dogwhistle.

Re:My Free Speech Means You Have to Shut Up by Yoric on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @03:56AM (#38361134)
If you write "Christian Communities hate gays", I will very much read "all Christian communities". And deduce that you're probably spewing nonsense, just as with "Jewish communities" and "Muslim communities".

Also, please do not make assumptions on my biases.

Re:My Free Speech Means You Have to Shut Up by rpmisms on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @09:43AM (#38364257)
Sure, how about "dogs bite people", then?
Re:My Free Speech Means You Have to Shut Up by Yoric on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @10:18AM (#38364759)
It definitely means that, as a general rule, dogs bite people. It might not mean all dogs, but it's definitely a warning against dogs in general.

Now, transpose this to human beings. The message we're commenting is a warning against Jewish Communities, i.e. I can't think of any reasonable way to interpret it other than as antisemitism.