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Re:Airlines will make record $118B in extra fees with websit... by pb7 on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:24PM (#38353101)
Can you give me the exact dates and flight times so I can validate this?
Re:Airlines will make record $118B in extra fees with websit... by hanzmanner on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:36PM (#38353311)
Here is the specific Google Flight I selected: https://www.google.com/travel/flights/s/yYPhNC6aXX4VP5cj8

Here are the screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/X923fSo

Re:Airlines will make record $118B in extra fees with websit... by steveBK123 on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:50PM (#38353512)
That's an issue, and going from kayak to delta for same flight leads to same issue.

I wonder if this is some bug/edge case for really close in flights? The example flight booking takes off 2 hours from now?

Last time I ever tried to book a flight so close the online sales funnel was closed due to post-9/11 security restrictions. I think 2 hours is about as close as is even legal right?

Can you replicate for a flight tomorrow / next week / next month?

Re:Airlines will make record $118B in extra fees with websit... by alwa on Monday November 20, 2023 @03:10PM (#38353863)
In my experience this replicates routinely for Delta Main Cabin fares for non-elites on leisure/non-corporate travel once only “Preferred Seats” are left in the economy cabin.

What I think the other carriers do well is detect when there aren’t non-charged seats available for advance selection, and remind you that you can continue without paying for a specific seat and still be guaranteed a seat on day of departure.

Delta hand out “free preferred seating” as a perk to all sorts of categories of traveler though. I wonder if that complicates the prospect of offering that kind of warning.

Re:Airlines will make record $118B in extra fees with websit... by hanzmanner on Monday November 20, 2023 @03:06PM (#38353798)
Urgency is one of the key motivators for using dark patterns. Wouldn't be surprised if Delta defaults to "1 seat available at this price" for all busy flights within X take off time regardless of the availability.
Re:Airlines will make record $118B in extra fees with websit... by pb7 on Monday November 20, 2023 @02:48PM (#38353490)
I see, thanks.

On an entirely different note, this feels like an exclusively Delta fuck up (and they know, given that they built a whole pop up for it). I fly United and American extremely frequently and never seen this. I have even booked Alaska basic economy that doesn't give you a seat and been given a free seat selection. Delta has been rapidly going downhill in recent years -- those that nerd out on air travel know exactly what I'm talking about.

Re:Airlines will make record $118B in extra fees with websit... by hanzmanner on Monday November 20, 2023 @03:03PM (#38353742)
I expect these patters from all low-cost airlines, so fly Alaska whenever possible.
Re:Airlines will make record $118B in extra fees with websit... by jasonwatkinspdx on Monday November 20, 2023 @04:27PM (#38355070)
I used to fly between Portland and SF often and Alaska was the only airline that never screwed me.