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Re:U.S. Agency Declares 21 Species Now Extinct L by ChatGTP on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:40PM (#38338452)
I’m actually more in agreement with you. That fact we’ve caused this level of suffering is abhorrent to me.

I agree that they feel loneliness too. But not the same level of anxiety about “what if I don’t exist, or my species or bloodline” doesn’t go on.

Re:U.S. Agency Declares 21 Species Now Extinct L by anonymouskimmer on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:50PM (#38338583)
> But not the same level of anxiety about “what if I don’t exist, or my species or bloodline” doesn’t go on.

To some extent, sure. But I think some of this is us habituating to pets who were sterilized prior to puberty. In post-pubertal animals the drives to have and rear children are pretty strong.

Re:U.S. Agency Declares 21 Species Now Extinct L by cscurmudgeon on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:55PM (#38338648)
> We are not “special” at all. We have no right making other species go extinct

That is self contradictory. A lot of species go extinct due to other species.

If we don't have that "right", that makes us special.

Re:U.S. Agency Declares 21 Species Now Extinct L by ben_w on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:39PM (#38339220)
Rights are a fiction we made up for our own benefit, like money and the abstract concept of fish.
Re:U.S. Agency Declares 21 Species Now Extinct L by cscurmudgeon on Sunday November 19, 2023 @06:52PM (#38339996)
So is the concept of "fiction" made up too?
Re:U.S. Agency Declares 21 Species Now Extinct L by ben_w on Monday November 20, 2023 @06:29AM (#38346498)
Dunno. As distinct from lies? Perhaps.

IIRC early Christianity thought acting violated the ten commandments, and some fiction writers today say their job is to tell lies for money.

Re:U.S. Agency Declares 21 Species Now Extinct L by cscurmudgeon on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @12:44AM (#38359836)
You missed my point
Re:U.S. Agency Declares 21 Species Now Extinct L by ben_w on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @04:38PM (#38370623)
That comes across like "for more information, please re-read" on a Scarfolk Council poster.