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Re:Victor Mono Typeface by RadiozRadioz on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:22AM (#38333448)
Sorry, ligatures are not for me. I don't get it. Why would you ever want symbols to collapse like that in a functional monospace font? Just looks like a bunch of funky unicode characters peppered throughout my source. And my caret can travel _inside_ one of these special marks? No thanks.
Re:Victor Mono Typeface by nurettin on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:29AM (#38333521)
Do you also care about inverted scroll and dark/light themes? None of it matters.
Re:Victor Mono Typeface by politelemon on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:50AM (#38333727)
I sometimes feels there's now a race between typefacers to stuff as many ligatures as possible to the point that it's bordering in indecipherability and clownishness. There's definitely an audience for this though, else why would they do it.
Re:Victor Mono Typeface by chalsprhebaodu on Sunday November 19, 2023 @11:03AM (#38333873)
Have you considered that it’s not indecipherable or clownish and perhaps you are a part of a group that just doesn’t get it?
Re:Victor Mono Typeface by eyelidlessness on Sunday November 19, 2023 @11:38AM (#38334307)
Not OP, but that’s my conclusion. I also don’t like programming font ligatures, but I personally find it annoying when people who share my opinion feel the need to point it out in a discussion of fonts clearly designed for people who don’t share my opinion. It’s highly subjective and the prevalence of these ligatures has never been a huge burden for me, because fonts without them are rather prevalent as well, as are means to bypass them in my own use.
Re:Victor Mono Typeface by nrabulinski on Sunday November 19, 2023 @02:42PM (#38336979)
And you can use the font with ligatures disabled! Almost as if having ligatures was a preference that doesn’t influence those who don’t want them yet may convince someone who does to try out font X :)
Re:Victor Mono Typeface by kstrauser on Sunday November 19, 2023 @11:02AM (#38333860)
I love ligatures, solely because I think they look pretty on my own screen. I especially like that our ASCII art arrows like -> are now little arrow pictures.

Emacs’s ligatures.el handles this nicely: you configure which specific ligatures you want to enable on a per-font basis. Want only -> and only in Berkeley Mono? Only turn that one on.

Re:Victor Mono Typeface by rubjo on Sunday November 19, 2023 @11:33AM (#38334235)
Ok. Well maybe disable them, then.
Re:Victor Mono Typeface by dorfsmay on Sunday November 19, 2023 @12:11PM (#38334756)
They aren't for me either!!

When pairing with people who use them, I find it harder to read, which is ok as long as variable names differ enough but it makes it really hard to distinguish == vs ===, and => vs -> etc...

Re:Victor Mono Typeface by silon42 on Sunday November 19, 2023 @02:29PM (#38336783)
Same here... Also, I had to enable web page fonts to actually see the horror :)
Re:Victor Mono Typeface by pindab0ter on Sunday November 19, 2023 @03:23PM (#38337428)
You don't have to use them.

I don't see what these kinds of comments add. You see them in every discussion on a font that has them.

Re:Victor Mono Typeface by spartanatreyu on Sunday November 19, 2023 @07:52PM (#38340640)
> You don't have to use them.

> I don't see what these kinds of comments add.

I think you've missed something from those comments.

Scenario: You're looking at a screenshot of someone else's code (from documentation, blog post, video, etc...). You see a ligature you're not familiar with. Now you cannot follow the rest of the information.

Question: What do you do?

Re:Victor Mono Typeface by alsodont on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:39PM (#38338438)
I also don’t get it. I first started seeing it used by kids coming out of Hack Reactor etc. and hence to me it screams “amateur hour”.

Of course plenty of people far more experienced than me use them; they still look like clowns though.