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Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by ksherlock on Sunday November 19, 2023 @09:57AM (#38333200)
For those that don't remember, a winmodem (aka softmodem) was smaller and cheaper because the modulation / demodulation was handled in software with host CPU and RAM. Using an external modem would free up CPU and RAM since it's handled in hardware.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by dicriseg on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:34AM (#38333566)
I was doing dialup internet support when these things hit the market. What a fucking mess. It’s 25 years later and I still get anxious when the phone rings, because my brain thinks it might be a senior citizen who can’t connect after they got a good deal on a new computer. Sometimes we could get them back on line with an init string, but often they needed new drivers. Walking someone through either of those over the phone was brutal.

Getting online as easily as we do today is nothing I will ever take for granted!

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by ryandrake on Sunday November 19, 2023 @11:16AM (#38334013)
I also briefly worked in Student IT support junior year of my university and "Winmodem" sent similar chills down my spine. An idea that never should have happened!

You can boil a lot of tech changes down to either A: Let's take this problem that has been solved in hardware and move it to software! and B: Let's take this problem that has been implemented in software and bake it into hardware.

Somehow, A is always a train wreck, and B usually pushes the abstraction stack upward and moves the industry forward. Yet, we as an industry keep trying A and expecting good results.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by dicriseg on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:39PM (#38338436)
Yeah, in the case of winmodems/softmodems, it was because A is cheaper. Or, at least, you could externalize the costs.

In our case, we technically did not support your hardware - you had to show up with a working modem. But in practice, if you want to retain your customers, you need to support their hardware. At one point we used to have CDs full of known good drivers for all of the common softmodems that we'd send out if we couldn't figure out a configuration workaround. Even then, I had a handful of discussions with folks where I basically told them that their thing wasn't going to work - they either needed a different modem, of which we'd recommend a few that we knew some stores carried, or they needed to find a way to cut down their line noise. I'm one of those types that takes it a little bit personally when I spend a bunch of time on something and still can't solve it, so that always sucked. Maybe you could say that wasn't strictly the modem's fault, but even the cheapest hardware modems had better tolerance for line noise.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by ryandrake on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:18PM (#38338961)
I think a lot of the problem was how difficult it was for the average computer user to tell the difference between a real modem and a Winmodem. Some manufacturers deliberately failed to distinguish them in marketing, pretending they were both "modems". Retailers were in on the scam, too. The whole puddle got muddied to the point where a savvy consumer needed to keep a whitelist of "real modem" make and model numbers with them going to the store. You could usually tell by the price, though, as you say they were cheap (garbage).
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by dicriseg on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:35PM (#38339162)
This is unlocking memories for me. I think we used to tell folks something like "If it's under $50 and Walmart sells it, that's a winmodem" or something like that.

In theory, one of the selling points was that as standards changed, you would just upgrade your drivers/software and not buy a new modem. That probably made a lot of sense if you bought a USR Winmodem, but those $20 unbranded models were lucky to ever see an update. If you were lucky, you had a reference model and could use the OEM drivers which did occasionally get updated. But by the time these things came about, V.90/V.92 existed, and dialup standards were kind of frozen in that 56k-if-you-were-lucky state. There wasn't anything to upgrade to - you got DSL if you wanted more bandwidth over POTS lines, or you went to cable.

Also I could be completely full of shit on the above. These are memories from 16-18 year old me.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by JohnFen on Monday November 20, 2023 @05:19PM (#38355719)
> a savvy consumer needed to keep a whitelist of "real modem" make and model numbers with them going to the store.

I think I still have that (paper) list in my (physical) files somewhere...

These days, I keep a similar list for routers that I can replace the OS on.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by Scoundreller on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:31PM (#38338326)
Took maaaaaaany hours to for tech support to figure out why my $$$ 33.6k external modem worked sloooooooow. Bazillions of failed packets reported in Windows Dial Up Networking.

Finally found the person that figured it out. Computer only had an 8250 UART for the serial port. $35 ISA serial port card with 16550A UART solved it!

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by dicriseg on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:52PM (#38338612)
This was definitely when tech support could still be fun. We didn't have tiers or scripts or anything, just a handful of people on shift answering calls. You kind of loved when you got one like this when the customer calling in also had a good attitude about it. Probably because you knew the call was going to eat up at least a quarter of your shift, and you got to think a little. It sure beat the 10th time that day you were walking someone through uninstalling and reinstalling TCP/IP on Win95/98/ME.

All these years later I really do still have anxiety when the phone rings, though. I have an irrational fear of picking up even when it's, like, my dad, or picking up the phone and having to call a business to ask a question or something.

Do you happen to remember what sort of system you had that still had an 8250 but extended into the >14.4kbps era? Was this just a super old machine in the mid 1990's, or something in the 486+ range and the motherboard manufacturer had a lot of late 80's chip stock?

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by Scoundreller on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:13PM (#38338894)
I suspect they enjoyed talking to me because I sounded like a young woman (in a ~12 year old boy's body).

It was a no-name 486 DX2 66MHz from "Consumer's Distributing" (defunct soviet-style Canadian retailer), and a cheap model at that. 8250 was probably a cost-cutting measure they felt like they could get away with.

Most people probably bought internal modems so these UART issues wouldn't pop up. But we had bad experiences with IRQ conflicts locking up the mouse on a previous computer. Not an issue with Lynx/Pine/etc, but we wanted GUI and Netscape, so we were trying to avoid that. Unsure if our go-external plan made sense or not (does an internal hardware modem run its own UART or communicate over ISA to the board's serial port?).

It was a lot of calls, so I dutifully reinstalled the drivers and tried a lot of dialer strings.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by dicriseg on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:26PM (#38339047)
> Unsure if our go-external plan made sense or not (does an internal hardware modem run its own UART or communicate over ISA to the board's serial port?).

Internal hardware modems had their own UART. A lot of them had DIP switches or jumpers where you'd set the IRQ and COM port. You needed to set them to a free IRQ/COM pair.

This will take you back in time: https://support.usr.com/support/5685/5685-files/spvc336.pdf

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by Scoundreller on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:38PM (#38339201)
It was probably unusual for this ISP to deal with a bargain basement computer, but a premium external modem, and the incompatibilities that can result.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by devilbunny on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @11:04AM (#38365486)
> I sounded like a young woman (in a ~12 year old boy's body)

You probably sounded like a generic adult woman at that age. Much younger, and your physical size keeps you from having the same resonance as an adult; much older, and your voice has started cracking.

But when I was 11 or 12, I could order pizza delivery, and they would always close with "Thanks for your order, Mrs. Devilbunny". Never got shunted off to the "I need to speak with an adult in the home to place this order" line.

It was kinda neat, although I never really thought of ways I could exploit it. (I wasn't devious enough at the time.) And then when I got devious enough, I had to wait two or three more years until the cracking stopped completely and I could be believed as an adult again.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by JohnBooty on Monday November 20, 2023 @12:35AM (#38342833)

    All these years later I really do still have anxiety 
    when the phone rings, though. I have an irrational 
    fear of picking up even when it's, like, my dad, 
I feel you. Near the end of my mom's life there were a few years where I was on basically 24/7 phone alert in case she was rushed to the hospital again, etc. I was never really able to use vibrating alerts again after that. I just associate them with that stressful time.

For different but similar reasons I get anxiety spikes from Slack notification noises. Can't handle 'em.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by henrikschroder on Sunday November 19, 2023 @08:41PM (#38341068)
> 16550A UART

*wave of nostalgia*

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by giraffe333 on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:32PM (#38338332)
Worked at AOL tech support back in the day and I also still have the occasional flashback to the pain these so called modems caused us all.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by dayjah on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:44PM (#38338512)
I worked at a non-AOL ISP as tech support back in the day and still have the occasional flashback to having to talk folks through uninstalling the custom TCP/IP stack the “Try AOL” CDs would install.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by dicriseg on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:54PM (#38338640)
There needs to be a special kind of therapist for people like us.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by gr4yb34rd on Sunday November 19, 2023 @09:54PM (#38341670)
I remember stepping people thru reinstalling DUN so many times I could probably still do it in my sleep to this day.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by dicriseg on Sunday November 19, 2023 @11:40PM (#38342325)
Click on start. Yeah that’s in the bottom left. Yup that one. Then look for settings. No the word settings. Has a little arrow next to it. Yeah hit that. It didn’t do anything? Wait, click with the mouse button on the left. Yeah it brought up a little menu to the right? That’s good. Now look for… ok let’s start over and remember not to click anywhere besides where I tell you to. And keep the mouse where it is. Ok find the start button again. No its in the bottom left of your screen…
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by HocusLocus on Monday November 20, 2023 @06:05AM (#38346267)
Same here. With call forwarding our 24/7 support usually rang at my house. Night was the 'drunk shift' and usually login problems. One user was particularly edgy about his password and would not say it even to me, they were stored as crypts, so I could reset it. He said he had pasted it from another place (which probably means he forgot it and was too arrogant to admit it) Round and round until I checked the logs and he was trying to sign on with a pw of '********' which is how it had gone into the clipboard. Instead of engaging with him further I set his pw to that. Problem solved.

My greatest win was to add a few lines to our RADIUS server to flip case one time on bad logins, so if 'mYpASSWORD123' failed it would try 'MyPassword123' and let them in if it worked. Logs showed thousands of fixed logins per month and reduced tech support calls to less than a third. We declared victory over CAPSLOCK.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by blackhaz on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:50PM (#38338590)
I have a collection of retro stuff from my childhood - an XT, a 386DX-40, Pentium-133, a bunch of hard drives, motherboards, video and sound cards, and so on... I really love all this retro stuff. But one night on eBay I've stumbled upon the modem I've had - the MultiTech 28.8k. I didn't buy it.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by ryoshu on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:32PM (#38339133)
I was around for the gold master of AOL 5.0 (Kilimanjaro). After the release we were pulled into a conference room to get on a call with Steve Case. You don't want to get on a call with the CEO immediately after a launch. It turns out our execs were installing 5.0 and then... couldn't get online. It hung with the modem init. As the person in charge of the QA lab I pulled all of our test run data. Couldn't duplicate on any of the dozens of machines. Sr. devs were running debuggers. Didn't see anything on their machines. We went into the office of our highest-level exec and borrowed his laptop.

Winmodem. Dev hooked up a debugger and found the issue. There was a bug in the soft modem driver. Hot fix was released, but it was too late for the pressed CDs. Luckily it was an edge case on high-end laptops. That were issued to all of our execs with the buggy driver.

Good times.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by axpvms on Sunday November 19, 2023 @08:53PM (#38341169)
I was also doing dialup internet support around that time. Talking a senior citizen through setting up a dial up networking connection on Windows 95/98 using a winmodem on a line which was obviously noisy with no way to see what was on their screen was pretty common.

I remember one time I'd gotten the connection established and they said "now what?", and I said "You've connected to the Internet" and they said "so what do I do now?" They'd gone out and bought the internet package because it was the thing to do, but had no idea what to do with it. I ended up showing them how to go to Google which had only just been released that month.

And I definitely relate to being adverse to hearing a ringing phone

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by dicriseg on Sunday November 19, 2023 @11:50PM (#38342386)
That is an amazing story. And you know that because of you, that person probably still calls their browser “the internet” because you showed them how to get to google.

I can’t imagine any old person calling tech support now and getting that kind of help. But think about how many people got their very first exposure to the internet just before you hung up the phone. Crazy.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by vidarh on Monday November 20, 2023 @07:59AM (#38347327)
I was thankfully out of the ISP business before the Winmodems hit. But the many... agonising... hours... spent doing support sometimes with the same person to get people online is something I'll never forget. We had someone who'd call back every few weeks because he had "optimized" (broken beyond belief) his winsock configuration in new and inventive ways that makes me think he was most likely doing it on purpose for social contact.

Every time it'd take an hour or more, because you'd tell him to do X, ask him to confirm he'd done X, ask him if he was sure he'd done X, then have him try to go online, and he'd call back and it'd turn out he'd done Y because he "thought it'd work better".

Also, the sheer number of times people who'd get too trigger-happy and start trying to connect before they'd hung up...

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by JohnFen on Monday November 20, 2023 @05:15PM (#38355679)
Winmodems were a serious plague for everybody (except modem manufacturers).
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by netsharc on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:21AM (#38333434)
I wonder how it is nowadays, PCI(e) sound cards are no longer a thing and are mostly on the motherboard (ok well the on-board chips are probably more powerful than chips on sound cards from x years ago), AMD's on-CPU GPU are quite powerful too. My network card^W chip has an option to off-load checksum calculations.

Seems like there's enough spare CPU cycles even if some of them have been used for your written-in-Javascript IDE and written-in-Javascript messaging client.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by giantrobot on Sunday November 19, 2023 @11:32AM (#38334217)
It's less about total cycles and more about scheduling. You don't really want a real-time or low latency thing like sound to get preempted by another process.

One of the problems with WinModems was they were sensitive to CPU load. In the nominal "browsing" case they might be fine, the average webpage wasn't going to load down the system too much. With something like gaming where the system was more stressed the modem could have weird latency issues or the driver could even crash.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by justsomehnguy on Sunday November 19, 2023 @12:18PM (#38334868)
Or have shitty drivers what would insert garbage in the received data, bad threading and memory management I supposec

I still have mp3s with botched (and very audible) grabled parts, corrupted at downdload.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by JohnBooty on Monday November 20, 2023 @12:49AM (#38342975)

    It's less about total cycles and more about 
    scheduling. You don't really want a real-time 
    or low latency thing like sound to get preempted 
    by another process.
This is true, but Windows and Mac prioritize this well at the OS level. I've been using mostly USB sound devices for the last ~15 years including gaming and never any skipping or desync issues. Not sure about Linux, I have not used it as a daily driver.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by premysl on Sunday November 19, 2023 @09:20PM (#38341385)
People just expect things to be integrated. Even Wi-Fi is, although it's probably typically an M.2 card. I have a <2000 computer that had both integrated audio and video, and it's kind-of become a norm.

Integrated sound cards are way more susceptive to interference, though, and the quality suffers a bit. They're merely good enough.

Also, people generally seem to use USB sound cards, as it removes even more room for interference (though my ASUS Xonar Essence STX sounds great already, unlike the integrated solution that transfers power rail and other noise).

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by doubloon on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:12AM (#38333348)
further radicalizing the open source movement. this was a massive deal with linux people back then since it threatened to shut linux off the internet, which would kill it. (if you take the idea to the extreme as young people do, that every network hardware device would soon require single-source proprietary software from a monopolistic corporation).
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by rascul on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:22AM (#38333436)
Old, surprised it's still up, and related:

http://www.linmodems.org/

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by throitallaway on Sunday November 19, 2023 @11:08AM (#38333912)
Holy heck, I remember using that. I'm so glad that the days of IRQ conflicts, Winmodems, etc. are past us.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by jwells89 on Sunday November 19, 2023 @11:31AM (#38334211)
“Winmodem” brings back memories of the dirt cheap Celeron-based Compaq Presario minitower my parents bought at the very tail end of 1999 as a quick replacement a 1996 Mac tower that had its hard drive fail.

What a miserable machine that thing was. It might’ve been an upgrade on paper but between Windows 98 and the terrible hardware it was running on, it was a hopelessly crashy buggy mess that rendered any performance advantages it had over the Mac entirely moot.

Within a span of 6 months we sold it and replaced it with a Dell Dimension 4100 that cost 3x as much and was much much better, especially after replacing its stock 98SE install with Win2K. We never bought bargain basement computers again after that.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by krooj on Sunday November 19, 2023 @02:01PM (#38336419)
Our family went through the same thing with a budget Celeron "MDG" computer running Windows 98. Awful. Keep in mind that, like you, I had previously used a IIsi and an LC630, so I figured... 300MHz, must be amazing?!?

At some point later, my high school had surplus Powermac 7500/100s that were gifted from Nortel and I managed to snag one, paired it with a USR 56k external modem and it was a million times better than that Celeron econobox.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by comprev on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:59PM (#38338701)
For me it brings back great memories of the first PC my folks bought for the family home where they asked _me_ what spec I'd like (Pentium 4, 256MB RAM, 30GB disk, 17" CRT, Soundblaster Live! 5.1, Creative Labs 5.1 speakers). One might say it was the catalyst to what became my career - and love of gaming!
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by WWLink on Sunday November 19, 2023 @08:19PM (#38340871)
> “Winmodem” brings back memories of the dirt cheap Celeron-based Compaq Presario minitower my parents bought at the very tail end of 1999 as a quick replacement a 1996 Mac tower that had its hard drive fail.

Also how the difference between a 1996 computer and a 1999 computer was SUBSTANTIAL.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by jwells89 on Sunday November 19, 2023 @08:38PM (#38341036)
The amount of time that pace kept up was also impressive, lasting well into the 2000s.

One of the first computers that was mine (as opposed to being a family computer) was a summer 2000 iMac DV with a 400Mhz PPC G3, 10GB HD, 128MB RAM, and 15” 1024x768 CRT. When I upgraded to a new iMac in 2005, it had a 2Ghz PPC G5, 500GB HD, 2GB of RAM, and a 20” 1680x1050 LCD.

That’s a ridiculously huge jump for just 5 years’ time. I can’t imagine where things would be now if that rate of advancement had continued through to today.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by JohnBooty on Monday November 20, 2023 @12:39AM (#38342867)
God. I remember for a while there in the 90s, Dell was kinda the "gold standard" for mainstream consumer PCs.

They often came with nice (Dell rebranded) Trinitron monitors although I think that was usually an upgrade over some base monitor.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by jwells89 on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:16AM (#38343266)
Yep, the monitor we got with that Dimension was a 17” Trinitron, which was excellent. Probably good enough to hold its own even today.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by JohnBooty on Monday November 20, 2023 @01:46PM (#38352470)
Good enough to hold its own, and fetch a few hundred bucks to boot! People pay good money for them now.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by chrsig on Sunday November 19, 2023 @11:49AM (#38334487)
freeing cpu/ram generally wasn't the motivator to get a hardware modem. winmodems required drivers that generally were only available for windows ("win"modem)

at a consumer level, the only people that ever knew or cared were people trying to run linux or a bsd. h/w modems operated over a serial port, and didn't require any special kernel support.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by abirch on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:19PM (#38338181)
That's how I learned about the kernel and modules. That and getting a CD ROM to work.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by JohnBooty on Monday November 20, 2023 @12:45AM (#38342929)

    at a consumer level, the only people that ever 
    knew or cared were people trying to run linux 
    or a bsd
Lots of tech support stories in the HN replies here, and the linked Anandtech discussion, that contradict that.

Yeah, winmodems were "good enough" for most. But tended to perform worse with noisy phone lines. Which were really common. Which is what the linked article talks about.

Also remember that DOS online gaming was a thing for a few years. If you played Quake online in the early days, you were generally not doing it through Windows.

Also I think Warcraft and all them were dos. Battle net? Kali? I dunno, that was my friend's department.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by dehrmann on Sunday November 19, 2023 @12:23PM (#38334936)
I just remember winmodem drivers always being finicky and rarely working.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by patrakov on Monday November 20, 2023 @06:46AM (#38346669)
On Windows, yes. On Linux, the proprietary driver was OK (consistently connecting at 48kbps and keeping it for hours), except for the micro-freeze when going off-hook.

LT Win Modem.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by comprev on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:51PM (#38338591)
Buying an external US Robotics 56k modem allowed me to get online with RedHat 8 (boxset purchased from Amazon, IIRC), as the PC I had contained a PCI Win-modem with no compatible Linux drivers. It was a friend at school who introduced me to Linux. Surfing the web at home on Linux in the early 00s felt like I was in niche club :-)
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by 1letterunixname on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:00PM (#38338721)
Back in the day, Central Computer carried packaged RedHat and clear vinyl Slackware CD sets. One of the few brick and mortar computer and software store regional chains that still exist in the US, the other being MicroCenter.

https://centralcomputer.com

https://www.microcenter.com

I worked at Egghead Software in high school and managed NFR pricing on Netcom. Egghead was one of the first chains to go under because it couldn't compete with the hypermarts like CompUSA and Fry's Electronics, both of which are now also defunct given way to BestBuy and Amazon.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by arglebargle123 on Sunday November 19, 2023 @09:19PM (#38341380)
That's a name I haven't heard for a very long time. Central Computer was a fantastic shop.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by Stratoscope on Monday November 20, 2023 @08:48PM (#38357781)
They are still in business, with five stores!

https://www.centralcomputer.com/

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by 1letterunixname on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:53PM (#38338625)
Yep. Softmodems were hot garbage because they were generally Windows only.

Gimme a Courier 56k or give me AOL at 75 baud.

Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by wkat4242 on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:33PM (#38339146)
It also made your PC slow and crappy in general and they didn't work with real OSes. And they would often fail or crap out when you were doing something else (most windows was still DOS based and not fully multitasking back in those days) Yuck. Bottom of the barrel stuff.
Re:Should I replace my 56k modem with a 28.8K Modem? by bitwize on Sunday November 19, 2023 @08:06PM (#38340760)
They were called WinModems at the time because they worked via a driver that required Windows to run. I think Linux eventually gained support for some of them, but at the time it was Windows or fuck you. Which I felt personally insulted by, as a modem of all things should work with any OS that could speak RS232 (which was all of them).

Because of that, and because of the added CPU burden, when my 28.8kbps modem went on the fritz I bought an external ZOOM 56kbps modem as a replacement. All the internal modems available at the time were Winmodems.