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Re:The hidden beauty of Berlin's indoor pools by bionsystem on Sunday November 19, 2023 @07:52AM (#38332209)
If that makes you feel better, in Paris even the city acknowledges that we need 2.5x the number of lines that we have to support the demand, and there is no way we ever reach that given how the city is built. And yet we often have entire pools closed for associative activities such as diving, training for "high level" clubs, and whatnot.

I'm all for children activities and aquatic gym for the elderly but I really don't see the value of using public pools for guys who "train" 3 hours a day just because they are part of some subsidized group, especially knowing that 99% of those have never done anything at the elite level. If you want to train at a high level just finance it for yourself, I'm locked out of my couple hours per week to get my back healthy (and many others are).

I'm presently pre-registering for a private pool that's going to be 10x more expensive (and I'm still paying the taxes that finances not only the pool but also the training programs of the subsidized orgs that train in my city's public pool).

Re:The hidden beauty of Berlin's indoor pools by expertentipp on Sunday November 19, 2023 @08:22AM (#38332413)
Show me any major desirable city in EU where it's not the case. One contributes monthly to various social and public polls of money and is shifted at the end of the queue every time, as the queues are on the best effort basis but with too many privileged people and organizations. Real estate prices are the ultimate slap in the face.
Re:The hidden beauty of Berlin's indoor pools by qwaxys on Monday November 20, 2023 @10:17PM (#38358631)
Ghent, Belgium
Re:The hidden beauty of Berlin's indoor pools by pastage on Sunday November 19, 2023 @09:24AM (#38332873)
A hint on fixing your problem, I have done my fair share of work in sports clubs, assuring the elite gets training time and money to be able to train. You need big support organization around the elite to make them viable.

They do pay and finance their own training but the elite can never afford to build exclusive infrastructure for youth to adult, you will always have an overlap with the club competitions. You need a good base to be able to build an elite. That is what that exclusive pool time is ment to build.

If you need more well run public pools the greatest partners are those "high level" clubs. They most certainly feel you pain.

Re:The hidden beauty of Berlin's indoor pools by nick222226 on Sunday November 19, 2023 @10:50AM (#38333732)
Don't knock on diving! It's constantly under attack at pools all over the parts of the world where legal liability is any bit of a factor. So hard to find any place that will let you dive these days. Although too bad they close the whole pool. They should have a bulkhead or separate diving basin ideally.
Re:The hidden beauty of Berlin's indoor pools by eastbound on Sunday November 19, 2023 @02:18PM (#38336642)
You are not providing any argument, apart from you wanting to dive. But it procures much more health to many people to use basins for swimming, so diving should be removed. Besides, diving is a set of things to learn, so learning diving on holidays is sufficient. Like windsurf. “Don’t knock on windsurfing at my local pool” wouldn’t cross my mind.
Re:The hidden beauty of Berlin's indoor pools by nick222226 on Sunday November 19, 2023 @03:00PM (#38337176)
Springboard and tower diving, not scuba.