What’s up with comparing altman to steve jobs? He’s well behind him on the scale of leadership, inspiration, vision, and not to mention he had little to no contribution to ai, other than a crypto style aggressive marketing campaign, sprinkled with fud fomo and gaslighting.

Not saying you're wrong, but the analogy is easy to draw. Both are CEOs, both were ousted, both are charismatic, Apple is the most valuable company in history, and OpenAI is among the fastest growing in history.

Using analogy is often fallacy.

Charismatic? Altman? Hmmmm

Jobs are so influential, Sam has his own kind of charisma and persona, as same as Musk.

Agreed. The cult of personality seems to have a strong grip on the US zeitgeist.

Technology is the new religion and Musk/Altman are the new messiahs, with Jobs and Gates as the patron saints.

It’s funny how those who most decry cults end up sounding so cultish.

The opposite of cult worship is NOT cult antipathy.

While sounding pithy, this is logically flawed. The opposite of theism is atheism, not agnosticism.

Disagree. Both theism and atheism assert absolute knowledge of the unknowable. The opposite is not asserting such knowledge.

It’s mostly just this site and the SV delusion it’s connected with. I’d bet if you ask random Americans, they would have no idea who Altman even is.

Nah, you can replace Sam with a deity of choice depending on the group, ex. Taylor Swift.

As organized religion recedes, people fill the vacuum with gods of their own making.

Yeah the abrupt vibe shift on HN with regards to altman is pretty odd. Suddenly he's a Jobs-esque product visionary?

I remember when people loathed him on here. Worldcoin etc?

He seems slimy as hell and I’m giving Ilya the benefit of the doubt.

Undoubtedly, there are a lot of HN posters with a vested interest in OpenAI's continued success… Talk is cheap when it doesn't affect your bottom line.

That’s an interesting point. Many folks may have started companies around openai’s product, thus defending their turf. Probably fearing they might be freed if the new ceo decides to lock api access.

I think you're reading into it too much.

It's not a comparison of personal talent.

It's simply the best known case of a highly visible CEO of a popular, groundbreaking company being ousted by the board.

So the comparison is natural. Apple and OpenAI are definitely similarly groundbreaking companies in the eye of the consumer.

This is a site run by YCombinator. Altman is Paul Graham's bud, and YCombinator alumni.

Jobs didn't return to Apple after a couple days

In a sense, Apple returned to Jobs, in order to acquire NeXTSTEP.