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Re:A Timeline of the OpenAI Board by hallqv on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:26AM (#38330833)
The whole OpenAI farce is a case study in what happens when you prioritize diversity over competence in your hires/appointments
Re:A Timeline of the OpenAI Board by kmlevitt on Sunday November 19, 2023 @04:38AM (#38330920)
People keep trying to make this about wokeness gone mad, but it was Ilya,the white guy most involved in their biggest technological innovations, that instigated all this.

Basically, it’s a nonprofit organization, and so they picked people who are professionally on the boards of nonprofit organizations and think about these matters in terms of ideology rather than tawdry profits.

Then everybody is shocked when they fire the CEO for caring more about profit than the ideologies they have based their careers around.

The problem isn’t that they were women. The problem is Sam tried to cosplay OpenAI as a nonprofit organization trying to do good in the world rather than just make money, and was in for a shock when it turned out the board members actually took that seriously.

Re:A Timeline of the OpenAI Board by fsckboy on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:43AM (#38331357)
>People keep trying to make this about wokeness gone mad, but it was Ilya,the white guy most involved in their biggest technological innovations, that instigated all this.

there are too many uninteresting debates here about wokeness that lead nowhere, so I'm not starting one.

But it is the very definition of wokeness to evaluate this situation on the basis of a white guy's race and gender, as if that indicates anything (everything?) about his POV.

Re:A Timeline of the OpenAI Board by rplnt on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:55AM (#38331440)
I don't think that's the case here? No evaluation, just a response to the parent comment saying "you are wrong, here's why".
Re:A Timeline of the OpenAI Board by SantalBlush on Sunday November 19, 2023 @06:00AM (#38331466)
That wasn't the point.

They mentioned the "white guy" in this case because it was relevant to the insinuations of wokeness.

Re:A Timeline of the OpenAI Board by kmlevitt on Sunday November 19, 2023 @03:34PM (#38337555)
I couldn’t care less that he’s a white guy. My point is simply that the instigator of all this was the exact opposite of a “diversity hire”, so it’s illogical to blame what happened on people getting hired for diversity rather than competence. Sutskever is by all accounts highly competent at what he does. He just didn’t agree with Sam’s vision, that’s all.
Re:A Timeline of the OpenAI Board by ahartmetz on Sunday November 19, 2023 @05:49AM (#38331397)
> Sam tried to cosplay OpenAI as a nonprofit organization trying to do good in the world rather than just make mone

That's more or less the regular Silicon Valley playbook according to the show "Silicon Valley": "We just want to make the world a better place"...

When somebody uses similar words but actually means them, that's like a lie by not lying.