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Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by constantly on Saturday November 18, 2023 @03:21PM (#38323956)
The “I should be able to personally launch intercontinental ballistic missiles without being detected” take isn’t one I expected to see today! Less facetiously, this is like complaining you don’t have privacy when turning on your house lights at night because optical satellites can see that there is light. It’s a little silly and honestly you don’t do any privacy causes any favors with this sort of unwarranted hyperbole.
Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by Terr_ on Saturday November 18, 2023 @03:26PM (#38323996)
> this is like complaining you don’t have privacy when turning on your house lights at night because optical satellites can see that there is light.

Which is also concerning if the consequence of that mere-observation becomes something like "Oh, the house of Citizen #DYSTO-48195812 had its lights on during interval X-Y."

"Privacy" isn't about the raw mechanics of observation, it's about capabilities and powers and how those might be abused by other humans.

> intercontinental ballistic missiles

Well, if allll someone needs is to detect giant missiles roaring into the edge of space on a pillar of fire, then we should be ultra-suspicious if they start building a system which goes beyond that into, say, following around the hot-spots of individual human heads.

Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by __MatrixMan__ on Saturday November 18, 2023 @03:41PM (#38324149)
Agreed. I often waffle about whether to blind a camera--not based on where it is pointing but based on where I think the data is going.

If you want to be able to see in front of your business without going outside, fine.

If you want to feed that data into a citywide network which the police can query to see who was where at which time, less fine.

Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by phatskat on Sunday November 19, 2023 @12:46PM (#38335350)
> If you want to feed that data into a citywide network which the police can query to see who was where at which time, less fine.

This is pretty much Ring’s secondary purpose, at least as Amazon continues to loosen their data privacy when it comes to LEO requests.

Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by oivey on Saturday November 18, 2023 @04:30PM (#38324697)
> Well, if allll someone needs is to detect giant missiles roaring into the edge of space on a pillar of fire, then we should be ultra-suspicious if they start building a system which goes beyond that into, say, following around the hot-spots of individual human heads.

I think you missed another possibility: that they make your head as hot as giant missile. Constant vigilance!

Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by Terr_ on Saturday November 18, 2023 @04:34PM (#38324731)
Hence the "tin"-foil hat: Reflective heatsink.
Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by wheelerof4te on Saturday November 18, 2023 @03:30PM (#38324040)
Not sure how people wanting some privacy means that someone

"should be able to personally launch intercontinental ballistic missiles without being detected"?!

Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by constantly on Saturday November 18, 2023 @03:41PM (#38324152)
They’re specifically complaining about their loss of privacy stemming from an infrared satellite system designed to detect missile launches.
Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by bear141 on Saturday November 18, 2023 @04:10PM (#38324478)
Drops in a bucket
Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by Dylan16807 on Saturday November 18, 2023 @08:26PM (#38327270)
If it can invade privacy that badly, then detecting missile launches was definitely not the guiding design goal.
Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by para_parolu on Saturday November 18, 2023 @03:33PM (#38324067)
If you are not criminal you have nothing to hide. Right?
Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by constantly on Saturday November 18, 2023 @03:45PM (#38324189)
Hide my infrared signature created from my missile launches? This second amendment thing has gone too far…
Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by bee_rider on Saturday November 18, 2023 @04:25PM (#38324634)
This is basically what the second amendment was intended for. It starts with a bit about militias and securing the state; the intention is clearly that we should be able to buy weapons of war. Nowadays that includes missiles.

How are you going to secure a free state with a rifle? Any reasonable adversary to the US would have jets and stuff. We should at least be able to get together and buy a neighborhood SAM site.

Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by lazide on Saturday November 18, 2023 @06:02PM (#38325683)
These HOAs are getting out of control!
Re:Lockheed is now tracking phones and walkie-talkies from s... by fullspectrumdev on Saturday November 18, 2023 @06:16PM (#38325876)
Recreational PATRIOT batteries.