For example, Mark Hurd was fired from HP because he expensed some non-business-related meals with his mistress or whatever.

What? Are you implying this happened here? Or just being weird?

I don't think anyone in this thread knows what happened, but since we're in a thread speculating why the CEO of the leading AI company was suddenly sacked, the possibility of an unacceptable interpersonal scandal isn't any more outlandish than others' suggestions of fraud, legal trouble for OpenAI, or foundering financials. The suggestion here is simply that Altman having done something "big and dangerous" is not a foregone conclusion.

In the words of Brandt, "well, Dude, we just don't know."

How is that relevant to the specific things the person I was replying to said?

Genuinely: how is it not relevant? Posted quite some time ago sure, but paints an interesting picture

What? Because it has nothing to do with "getting drunk and molesting an intern or tossing out racial slurs at say, some important person at a giant japanese company".

Also I made no claim of anything, just that dismissal can happen for a large variety of reasons. The Arcimoto CEO, for instance, was let go because he couldn't hold his liquor and got a DUI. Brendan Eich got booted from Mozilla for having a political ideology that Mozilla considered a liability.

All kinds of reasons.

Tech isn't like other industries where people in power tend to get away with this stuff with mostly impunity.

That's fine, I was just asking if you were implying particular knowledge about things that happened, because it kinda sounded like it.

My information here is exactly 0.

The implication is that this could be the 'unrelated reason', that he lied to the board about sexually assaulting his sister/step-sister/whatever. Of course, I'm not sure who Annie Altman is or how exactly she is related to Sam or if the allegations are true.

No. I'm saying that there's nothing that can be said about these things until information comes forward. It could be business related, finance, personal, whatever.

If you need evidence that this is sufficient for dismissal, merely stating that impropriety exists is apparently enough to get my first flag on hn after 12 years.

I mean yes, but that would require an investigation normally.

Something to happen immediately would require overwhelming evidence on hand in the meeting. So it could be something that has been uncovered as part of the due diligence with the MS investment

Its more likely to be fabrication of numbers, or misappropriation of funds, rather than something "dramatic" Think musk at paypal being monumentally incompetent, rather than planned misdeeds.

Flagged without a vouch button. Interesting.

Sam Altman was the CEO of Y-Combinator for 8 years. So even saying the field is wide on what could have happened is apparently super-banned.

I just posted a link to a Silicon Valley episode on youtube that implies that he fucks a robot, so let's see how that one goes... ;)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38311627

PDSCodes 27 minutes ago | unvote | parent | context | flag | favorite | on: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

Turn that on it’s head - was he standing in the way of a commercial sale or agreement with Microsoft!

He may not be the villain.

But who knows, it feels like an episode of silicon valley!

DonHopkins 22 minutes ago | prev | edit | delete [–]

I can do anything I want with her - Silicon Valley S5:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29MPk85tMhc

>That guy definitely fucks that robot, right?

That "handsy greasy little weirdo" Silicon Valley character Ariel and his robot Fiona were obviously based on Ben Goertzel and Sophia, not Sam Altman, though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SiliconValleyHBO/comments/8edbk9/th...

>The character of Ariel in the current episode instantly reminded me of Ben Goertzel, whom i stumbled upon couple of years ago, but did not really paid close attention to his progress. One search later:

VIDEO Interview: SingularityNET's Dr Ben Goertzel, robot Sophia and open source AI:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKbltBLaFeI

I'm sorry, I'm having trouble parsing your intentions here.

I was commenting on reasons for dismissal generally and not trying to impune this particular guy's character

Swift dismissals are likely motivated more by transgressions than performance but that's where the facts stop for me

Silicon Valley is a comedy, and that was a joke, obviously. But you can't deny there's a striking resemblance between Ariel & Fiona, and Ben & Sophia! That's why Silicon Valley was such a great show: they did their research.

The entire final storyline is about an AI trying to take over -- if you haven't watched it, you should! But many of my friends who live and work in Silicon Valley can't stand watching it, because it strikes too close to home, not because it isn't funny.

I think it's much more likely that Elon Musk fucked a robot, after having mistaken it for a human being in a robot suit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsNc4nEX3c4

It's not super-banned; I specifically unkilled it. It just isn't a very good HN comment, because it's inflammatory, speculative, and doesn't contain any information.

Actually I normally would have detached it from the parent, especially because it's part of a top-heavy subthread, but I specifically didn't do that in this case because of the principle described here: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

Thanks I was just trying to remind the community that these can come in forms unrelated to investment, product vision, profitability or market penetration and that an action like this doesn't say anything necessarily about the company

Vouch buttons show up when a post is [dead], not when it's [flagged]. I unkilled that comment a while ago*, so it's no longer [dead], so there's no longer a vouch button.

* normally we wouldn't do that, but in threads that have a YC connection we moderate less, not more - see https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...