280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far more than electric cars

Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by ackfoobar on Friday November 17, 2023 @12:06PM (#38306411)

Many aspects to the word "efficiency".

Space efficiency - how wide it takes to reach a certain throughput - train wins

Time efficiency - how much time it takes to get from point A to point B - barring traffic, car wins

Energy efficiency - how much energy it takes - bike wins

Your argument is just as strong without the subjective ranking of efficiency.

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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by soperj on Friday November 17, 2023 @12:27PM (#38306781)

Majority of my time commuting the bike wins every time, mostly because I'm commuting at the same time as everyone else.

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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by slothtrop on Friday November 17, 2023 @01:26PM (#38307732)

Good for you. Doesn't describe everyone else.

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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by q1w2 on Friday November 17, 2023 @05:12PM (#38311185)

Not an option any more when you need to start dropping kids off at school first - not to mention the weather and safety.

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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by papa-whisky on Friday November 17, 2023 @06:04PM (#38311881)

There are tons of options for carrying kids on a bike. Made even easier when you add electric assist.

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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by ackfoobar on Friday November 17, 2023 @07:04PM (#38312627)

I can imagine parents not wanting to take the risk of being outside two-tonne metal boxes on the road with their children. Infrastructure matters a lot.

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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by soperj on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @01:04AM (#38359958)

I drop my kids off at school on the way. They bike too. Started with a trail-a-bike, and now they are their own bikes and I bike with them to school on my way.

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Re:280M e-bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far mo... by q1w2 on Tuesday November 21, 2023 @08:34AM (#38363385)

I bet you live in a different climate than me. ...and your kids are likely older. These factors matter dramatically.

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