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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by AlecSchueler on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @03:54AM (#38260734)
Why do you have that feeling? I volunteer helping to report and disrupt networks of sexual assault and hatred against women on social media. Tik Tok is like the wild west in terms of the availability of CSAM for example, and in how tolerant it is of hate speech. Instagram actually takes reports seriously and doesn't tolerate threats of violence etc.
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by megapolitics on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @04:33AM (#38261028)
My observation has been that the comments on high engagement TikTok posts are generally quite pleasant, whereas the comments on high engagement Instagram posts feel like a KKK meeting.
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by iinnPP on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @04:56AM (#38261249)
This is my experience as well (though it is uninstalled as of ~1 year ago).

You get what you look for on Tiktok.

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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by mikrotikker on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @05:25AM (#38261481)
Haha now do YouTube.
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by wongarsu on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @05:53AM (#38261676)
Youtube comments used to be known as a cesspool, but lately I'm mostly avoiding them for their unbearable positivity and uncritical praise of the video. I can see how that's bad on conspiracy or racist videos though.
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by andai on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @06:30AM (#38261979)
Fascinating, I'd guess this to be the result of a filter bubble? i.e. it would only show you things you agree with. That might not be optimal though (at least in terms of harvesting human attention at all costs), I always heard that outrage drives engagement better?
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by previnder on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @09:28AM (#38263680)
I wonder if this is because the creators routinely prune negative comments of them. Or perhaps it is because Youtube severely down ranks comments with dislikes.
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by hydrok9 on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @11:45AM (#38265762)
Because YouTube promotes positive comments and every comment section is set to "best comments" now by default (instead of most recent comments)
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by irksomehails on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @12:31PM (#38279564)
Toxic positivity is what the cool kids call it. Overtly positive, happy and encouraging comments that feel so manufactured and fake.
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by pjc50 on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @04:55AM (#38261243)
I'm familiar with the misogyny problem (Andrew Tate etc), but I thought that CSAM was the one thing that got an immediate effective banhammer everywhere on the Internet. If you've got a real CSAM problem with TikTok it might be addressed by taking it to their CDN?

(even on HN, it's hard to get people to focus on the "is it harmful" question for social media rather than the "run by foreigners vs Americans" aspect)

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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by pantalaimon on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @05:05AM (#38261324)
Maybe CSAM = 12 year olds posting videos of themselves dancing?
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by donkeyd on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @05:23AM (#38261456)
The 'abuse' in that scenario being the fact that the parents are ignorant or uninvolved enough to let it happen.
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by AlecSchueler on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @01:09PM (#38267078)
If you're posting it publicly then yes it's very likely that it's being redistributed in a pornographic context.
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by tremon on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @08:01AM (#38276191)
What's next? We should ban all photos of winter forests because arbophiles might get off on them?
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by AlecSchueler on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @06:32AM (#38261993)
Yes, TikTok is very very popular for this. The network of these accounts is then leveraged by "fan accounts" who form hubs for abusers to connect with one another and share links to other platforms, particularly Telegram and Mega.

Reddit is also extremely bad for it. They have a system now where a new subreddit is created every day, discoverable via known keywords, and then used as a directory for links to telegram.

The other thing you'll commonly see on both of these platforms is material being stolen from other social media platforms and then re-hosted to reddit or TikTok with sexualised descriptions. Reddit for example will often say it's fine as long they don't explicitly mention that the images are not of the poster.

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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by stef25 on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @08:03AM (#38262806)
> Reddit is also extremely bad for it. They have a system now where a new subreddit is created every day, discoverable via known keywords, and then used as a directory for links to telegram.

Why is Reddit in the equation, because the Telegram channels also get banned ? Cause if not, why not just stick to Telegram

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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by AlecSchueler on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @08:30AM (#38263038)
Reddit is used as a directory. It has the advantages in discoverability and being able to automate account creation without needing an email address or phone number.
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by mikrotikker on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @05:23AM (#38261466)
Run by Americans or run by the intelligence and propaganda arm of a govt that is adversarial to America?
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by pjc50 on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @08:06AM (#38262824)
Sure, but .. are there no first Amendment implications at all? What's the minimum US involvement of staff TikTok would require in order to receive first amendment protection?
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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by GaryNumanVevo on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @05:52AM (#38275355)
Why do I get a bad feeling about someone "volunteering" to police CSAM on the internet in the name of "disrupting networks of sexual assault"?

Vigilante CSAM Detective doesn't exactly sit well with me

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Re:Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony by flkenosad on Thursday November 16, 2023 @06:49PM (#38297324)
> I volunteer helping to report and disrupt networks of sexual assault and hatred against women on social media.

Are you part of an organization?

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