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Re:Nicotine: On the benefits and lack of demerits of nicotine by southernplaces7 on Saturday November 11, 2023 @03:49PM (#38234365)
>As a former smoker, I can only believe that anyone who takes this risk does not fully appreciate the consequences.

That's the key thing there, "smoker". If you become addicted to nicotine via smoking tobacco, then you're possibly fucked, but nicotine by itself is nowhere near as dangerous for health, it even has some benefits for well-being.

I don't know why you take exception to some people or articles emphasizing the above, or that cigarettes are the major risk. It's mostly true and addiction by itself specifically to a cheap, easily available substance like nicotine, which doesn't devastate daily functionality or economic solvency as many other narcotics do, is not terrible by itself.

Re:Nicotine: On the benefits and lack of demerits of nicotine by dieselgate on Saturday November 11, 2023 @05:20PM (#38235165)
I understand what you're saying and have mixed feelings. My opinion is that a nicotine addiction is terrible no matter how it's consumed but smoking tobacco is the most harmful way to consume.

I was able to switch from chewing tobacco to nicotine pouches and gum but still feel the addiction is terrible.

Re:Nicotine: On the benefits and lack of demerits of nicotine by rudasn on Sunday November 12, 2023 @01:47AM (#38237946)
> nicotine by itself is nowhere near as dangerous for health, it even has some benefits for well-being.

So, recently I had to learn that nicotine is super toxic and can be lethal or at least severely damaging to internal organs, especially for children, toddlers, babies, small animals (dogs, cats), etc.

Maybe Google it, or ask your doctor, if your assumption that "by itself is nowhere near as dangerous for health, it even has some benefits for well-being" stands.

Re:Nicotine: On the benefits and lack of demerits of nicotine by rodent_rodeo on Sunday November 12, 2023 @03:42AM (#38238512)
Are you referencing like pure nicotine liquids? Yeah vape juices that smell like jelly donuts, if a toddler/animal drinks a month supply in a few minutes it’s going to be bad news. Also, when people were mixing their own juices they’d be buying pure nicotine and getting poisoned.

“The dose makes the poison.”

Anyways, not going to list out all the pros and cons of nicotine as Andrew Huberman did that for us. He has a decent podcast that’s goes through it all.

No one really argues that it’s essential or beneficial in every way but it’s not the purported demon that the anti smoker lobby has made it out to be.

Many years ago, I heard the Japanese even put it into their drinks. I’ve tried searching for it now and found some iffy sources and outdated Reddit links and everything else is just e juice vape spam. Can any Japanese knowledgeable people confirm or deny this?

Re:Nicotine: On the benefits and lack of demerits of nicotine by rudasn on Sunday November 12, 2023 @08:53AM (#38240071)
> Are you referencing like pure nicotine liquids?

Not going to discuss on your other arguments, just wanted to say that if anything smaller than a grown adult eats a cigarette or just plain tobacco, better call the doctor.