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Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by slaw on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:44AM (#38192984)
Tesla workers don't want to strike so other workers are blocking them from work. That should be illegal.
Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by SiempreViernes on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:47AM (#38193046)
This is false, both in the sense that employees that would like to be scabs are not being prevented from crossing the picket line and that there are no Tesla workers taking part in the strike.

However, because Tesla Sweden has repeatedly threatened repercussions (loss of company stock which is the main way Tesla Sweden matches market wages, loss of employment) if you strike, the picket lines are manned by other union members.

Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by slaw on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:52AM (#38193137)
That is the first time I read Tesla Sweden was threatening it's workers. Could you give source to these claims?
Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by chmod775 on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @12:10PM (#38193476)
Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by TraspSE on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:51AM (#38193116)
Please provide a reputable source of Tesla workers not striking and a theory of who it is that is standing by the so called picket fence.

And, your comment about that it should be illegal is absurd in the context of Sweden. The unions are allowed to strike because Tesla refuse to sign the collective agreement that regulates the use of strikes while the employees in return are guaranteed minimal wage, pensions and so on. Tesla could sign this agreement any time they want to, but they're choosing this fight while the unions wants regulation. That's on them, not anyone else - and Musk is perfectly free to take his business elsewhere if he don't want to conform to Swedish customs.

In Sweden, more than 90% of labor is covered by collective agreements and while the number of members has dropped over the last few decades, about 70% of the population is still unionized. A company like Tesla coming in and breaking all of the unwritten rules threatens the Swedish model and is bound to meet heavy resistance from Swedish labor in full, and most unions are members of the same umbrella organization (LO) so that they can organize across sectors when needed.

Can you imagine the outrage that would come from a Swedish company coming to the US, trying to change fundamental mechanics of the system there without the support of its citizens? Why shouldn't this scenario result in the same outrage and resistance here in Sweden?

The solution is simple, sign the agreement - as is custom here in Sweden. If they can't conform to Swedish customs then they are perfectly free to leave.

Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by slaw on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @12:01PM (#38193309)
Are a bot? You copy paste the same text 5 times. Do you want me to prove Russell's teapot?
Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by eddtries on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @12:04PM (#38193376)
But what are your thoughts? They’re pretty legitimate
Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by TraspSE on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @12:18PM (#38193625)
To be fair, I've made the same (not identical) arguments over three different threads on the same subject. However, I'm still waiting for the first serious reply with an actual argument.
Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by eddtries on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @12:26PM (#38193753)
You’ll never win an argument that has such different cultures in the comment section, sadly. Not only are there the US ideas of unions here, but also Musk fanboyism. It’s a lost cause!
Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by TraspSE on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @01:05PM (#38194374)
I'm not really expecting to turn any Musk-fanatics around if I'm being honest, even though a serious argument or two from a couple of them could be fun. I'm more interested in providing context to those who read the comments and haven't thought about this matter in a context other than that of the US.
Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by TraspSE on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @12:07PM (#38193431)
Sorry, please provide more context for me to able to answer your question. /s
Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by mrmanner on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:51AM (#38193134)
They’re not being blocked from work - the article clearly states that work is conducted in Tesla workshops. Other workers refuse to work on Tesla-related assignments, that’s freedom in action.
Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by monkaiju on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:48AM (#38193072)
Why? Those workers are allowed to strike to better industry conditions. Alsobthe workers 'not wanting to strike' is very likely for fear of retaliation.
Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by slaw on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:58AM (#38193263)
Did you read? These are not Tesla workers blocking a port from unloading Tesla cars.
Re:Workers in Sweden Will Expand Strike Against Tesla by piva00 on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @12:08PM (#38193446)
No, they are port workers doing a sympathy strike with IF Metall, they are workers that see collective action taken against Tesla and decided to join in on their field.

Tesla workers under IF Metall are under strike, there are scabs in any strike, Tesla was ferrying workers from other places to cross picket lines and do the work, that doesn't fly here in Sweden, hence the sympathy strikes by other unions to show Tesla that this attitude is despicable in this society.