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Arguing in favour of base 12 systems would make sense if it seemed doable to introduce more numerals and replace base 10 altogether, in my opinion, but that's not realistic.

Besides, if you live somewhere where the metric system is used, and you're unable to manually measure and cut one third of a meter (0.333m/33.3cm/333mm/333333µm) with the same speed and precision as you would be able to using a yard-stick - then you probably shouldn't be allowed near the tools needed in the first place.

PS. In practice, the boss would've asked you for a piece that is either 3dm, 33cm or 333mm long, indicating the expected precision.

So far there's five different unions (I think) who's about the join the strike because this conflict affect the whole of Sweden, so to calculate how many individuals that are currently involved and actively support these actions you'd have to include all electricians, maintenance workers, postal service employees and so on as well (the list is growing rapidly).

As the pressure will be incrementally increased until Tesla realize that they have the whole nation against them you would pretty soon have to include the full 70% of the working population to calculate how many individuals that are actively supporting this action.

The union wants regulation, that's the whole point. Tesla only have themselves to blame for any action that stems from the decision to not sign a collective agreement.

PS. 90% of Swedish labor is covered by collective agreements that has been hammered out over the last century - it is custom to sign it and no one has brought in scabs for almost a century during a strike, forcing unions to step up their game. As Tesla threatens the Swedish model, it is a concern for all labor.

And, your comment about that it should be illegal is absurd in the context of Sweden. The unions are allowed to strike because Tesla refuse to sign the collective agreement that regulates the use of strikes while the employees in return are guaranteed minimal wage, pensions and so on. Tesla could sign this agreement any time they want to, but they're choosing this fight while the unions wants regulation. That's on them, not anyone else - and Musk is perfectly free to take his business elsewhere if he don't want to conform to Swedish customs.

In Sweden, more than 90% of labor is covered by collective agreements and while the number of members has dropped over the last few decades, about 70% of the population is still unionized. A company like Tesla coming in and breaking all of the unwritten rules threatens the Swedish model and is bound to meet heavy resistance from Swedish labor in full, and most unions are members of the same umbrella organization (LO) so that they can organize across sectors when needed.

Can you imagine the outrage that would come from a Swedish company coming to the US, trying to change fundamental mechanics of the system there without the support of its citizens? Why shouldn't this scenario result in the same outrage and resistance here in Sweden?

The solution is simple, sign the agreement - as is custom here in Sweden. If they can't conform to Swedish customs then they are perfectly free to leave.

(The trucks are manufactured by Volvo AB.)

While the US regulates strikes and minimum wages by law, it is in Sweden regulated by collective agreements. So, Tesla is choosing to allow these strikes against them by not signing it. They're the ones to blame for any action that stems from this decision, no-one else.

Can you imagine the outrage that would come from a Swedish company coming to the US, trying to change fundamental mechanics of the system there without the support of its citizens? Why shouldn't this scenario result in the same outrage and resistance here in Sweden?

The solution is simple, sign the agreement - as is custom here in Sweden. If they can't conform to Swedish customs then they are perfectly free to leave.

The 0.01% is in this situation the foreign CEOs while the 99.9% is the actual population. Your made the perfect argument in favor of the unions, by sheer ignorance.

PS. The lost in members is likely due to the fact that those who isn't unionized reap most of the benefits anyway. Employers usually sign collective agreements voluntarily as it usually benefits both employer and employees. The numbers would likely go back up if they didn't.

Unionen would be a very welcome addition to the list, as would Finansförbundet. I expect we'll see a steady flow of notices this week. Fingers crossed for these two, definitely. These arrogant foreign CEO's thinking they can come to our nation and ignore the customs is so nonchalant that an example needs to be made. Imagine the reaction to a Swede trying to dictate US politics without the approval of its citizens...

Did I miss any union? It's quite hard to keep up with the (very predictable) development right now.

If it were true, there wouldn't be a picket fence and Tesla wouldn't have felt the need to bring in strike breakers.

You're regurgitating lies and misinformation. Please reconsider your sources.

PS. The strike is, as usual in Sweden, incremental and will be expanded every now and then until the pressure is high enough to bring the employer to the table to negotiate in good faith without causing unnecessary harm to the company (and, consequently, its labour). If you think this current and partial strike is all that's going to happen if Tesla refuse to actually negotiate, then you're in for a big surprise my friend.

In Sweden, more than 90% of labour is covered by collective agreements. A company like Tesla coming in and breaking all of the unwritten rules threatens the Swedish model and is bound to meet heavy resistance from Swedish labour in full, and most unions are members of the same umbrella organisation (LO) so that they can organize across sectors when needed.

While the US regulates strikes and minimum wages by law, it is in Sweden regulated by collective agreements. So, Tesla is choosing to allow strikes against them by not signing it. They're the ones to blame for any that stems from this decision, no-one else.

Can you imagine the outrage that would come from a Swedish company coming to the US, trying to change fundamental mechanics of the system there without the support of its citizens? Why should this scenario in reverse not result in the same outrage and resistance here in Sweden?

The solution is simple, sign the agreement - as is custom here in Sweden. If they can't conform to Swedish customs then they can simply choose to leave Sweden. Tesla don't want regulation surrounding their workers, so they themselves aren't protected from union actions against them.

PS. They are not targeting a product, they a targeting a company that don't want regulation to apply to their company. As such, the regulations don't apply to the unions either. This arrogance towards Swedish customs and culture is so nonchalant that the general public now frowns upon Tesla and guarantees their support for the unions in this case. The reports about employees being threatened to be fired and/or have their benefits pulled is also probably but allowed due to the Swedish constitution that guarantees the right to organize associations, furthering the sense of Tesla not respecting our nation, citizens and customs. Continued resistance from Tesla will probably result in public outrage.

See also, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38146339

As Tesla seems to be trying to circumvent the blockade by using other ports, the sympathy strikes is now going to be expanded even more, with all Swedish ports being put under blockade (against Tesla, specifically).

This second expansion goes into effect midday on the 17th of November.

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https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/konflikten-mellan-if-metall...

According to an interview with a representative from IF Metall on Swedish Radio (public service) yesterday, other measures is to be announced in a few days as well, adding that they have the support of other unions here in Sweden. This expansion is due to Tesla still not being willing to negotiate, arguing that they will bring in strike breakers to be able to continue doing business here in Sweden.

The unions are allowed to strike because Tesla sign the collective agreement that regulates the use of strikes as well as guarantee a minimal wage, pensions and so on.

Tesla can sign this agreement any time they want to, but they're choosing this fight while the unions wanted regulation.

It's on them, not anyone else - and Musk is perfectly free to take his business elsewhere if he don't want to comply with Swedish customs.

Americans would go crazy if some swedes swooped in and tried to change fundamental mechanics of the US culture and system from abroad.

An example needs to made here and that's why the other unions are joining in. Your beloved role model will end up with egg on his face.

Finansförbundet will probably not signal until the strike has been going on for at least a few months, but I believe that a couple of other sectors will.

Tesla is like that guest who comes to your house only to refuse to follow the ways of those who actually live there. Tesla, Amazon and the rest of all these companies that are coming here is acting like it's America - it's not, and they will know this soon enough.

Collective agreements is how you do business in Sweden and their arrogance in thinking that they can come here and impose American business culture on our nation is so nonchalant that it probably have secured the support from the general majority in favour of the unions.

Let the games begin...

"Sixteen different sector unions participated in the sympathy strikes.

Dockworkers refused to [...]. Printers refused [...]. Truckers [...]. Typographers [...]. Food and beverage workers [...]"

And the list goes on... How would anyone be able to repair that Tesla?