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Re:Spain lives in flats: why we have built our cities vertic... by anovikov on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @11:22AM (#38192637)
Poverty, that's how. They live in flats because they can't afford US-style houses (climate would allow them easily), and can't afford 70km average commute radius - car-only because sprawl can't be covered by public transport.

They live in apartments not because they are so conscious about urban planning, but because they can't afford to do otherwise. Give people money and they want to move to single-family houses in suburbs.

Re:Spain lives in flats: why we have built our cities vertic... by Darmody on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @12:27PM (#38193771)
That's far from the truth.

People want to live near the city center. They want to be able to walk and get anywhere easily and that's means they want to live in an apartment in a city.

Actually, nowadays is cheaper to buy a house with a garden than an apartment and guess what people are trying to buy?

Re:Spain lives in flats: why we have built our cities vertic... by electrozav on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @01:31PM (#38194750)
It's much more expensive to live in the center of a big city. And not just in Spain.
Re:Spain lives in flats: why we have built our cities vertic... by anthk on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @02:10PM (#38195373)
No, buddy, it's the reverse. The sparsest provinces with rural backgrounds (the Castilles [except for maybe Zamora-Salamanca-Leon] , Aragon, Extremadura)... are the poorest. The most populated ones are the ones with the most quality jobs and people has much better salaries and ofc the cost of everything it's on par: Bilbao, Valencia, Barcelona, Madrid...

Also, as they stated owning a flat in the center of your city or town it's expensive as fuck, while owning a 'villa' in the outskirts in the middle of nowhere in Ye Olde Farmtown it's dirt cheap.

Re:Spain lives in flats: why we have built our cities vertic... by manuelabeledo on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @04:01PM (#38196936)
> ... and can't afford 70km average commute radius

Do we consider this abomination a luxury now?