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Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by omginternets on Tuesday November 07, 2023 @08:39PM (#38185674)
Are we just going to pretend they’re not political slogans?

The statement was perfect until that last line.

Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by jrsj on Tuesday November 07, 2023 @10:10PM (#38186276)
It really shouldn’t be controversial to suggest that calling people nazis on the official website for your programming language is unprofessional, but here we are…
Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by omginternets on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @10:19AM (#38191595)
You’re pretending it isn’t a political slogan and that the meaning doesn’t extend beyond the literal sense of the words.

I’m wondering why you’d do that.

Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by jrsj on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @02:04PM (#38195272)
Quite the opposite if you see my other comments, I think you may have misread what I said here. This statement is clearly a problem imo, its usage of political slogans makes it more of a declaration of political allegiance rather than actually being about inclusivity.
Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by omginternets on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @02:12PM (#38195393)
I did indeed misread, and we are in perfect agreement! My apologies!
Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by galaxyLogic on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @05:48PM (#38198346)
> shouldn’t be controversial to suggest that calling people nazis on the official website is unprofessional

Whom did they call "nazi"? Anybody?

If they didn't call any particular person "nazi" then it's unprofessional to suggest they did that.

Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by jrsj on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @07:53PM (#38199459)
No one explicitly

But the idea that it would even be a concern for there to be “nazi bullshit” in a programming language would require such an absurdly broad definition of nazi that i can only assume whoever wrote this would consider a large % of Americans to be Nazis. This is inherently exclusionary. The statement is bullshit. It isn’t “Friendly <3” as the heading would suggest.

Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by omginternets on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @08:08PM (#38199609)
The exact phrases in question are:

1. Black lives matter.

2. Trans rights are human rights.

3. No nazi bullsh*t.

Phrases 1 & 2 are well-recognized political slogans, and I don't like some of the organizations that have very vocally rallied behind these slogans.

Do you think that makes me a nazi? If not, how welcome do you think this makes me feel?

Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by tadfisher on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @12:42AM (#38187189)
The line that says "no Nazi bullshit"? That has to be the safest political position you can hold as long as you're not friends with Kanye West.
Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by omginternets on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @12:28PM (#38193795)
It's a dog whistle. It is exactly the same as if I were to say to you, "all lives matter" or "make America great again".

PS: we know you know this.

Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by galaxyLogic on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @05:40PM (#38198248)
It should be safe. Still it seems some people get offended by it. What kind of people? I can only assume they are people more supportive of autocratic regimes than the rest of us.
Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by omginternets on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @08:05PM (#38199565)
The exact phrases in question are:

1. Black lives matter.

2. Trans rights are human rights.

3. No nazi bullsh*t.

Phrases 1 & 2 are well-recognized political slogans, and I don't like some of the organizations that have very vocally rallied behind these slogans.

Do you think that makes me a nazi? And if not, how welcome do you think this makes me feel?

Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by tadfisher on Thursday November 09, 2023 @12:58PM (#38208383)
You seem to be applying some kind of modus ponens rule to this list. To me, they read disjointly; you can agree with the status quo regarding police violence, and that trans people should not be welcomed in society, and still not follow Nazi ideology.
Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by omginternets on Monday November 13, 2023 @03:14PM (#38254790)
Respectfully, you’re dodging part of the question.

How would you feel if my org stated “all lives matter” and pretended not to see the problem?

Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by jrsj on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @07:56PM (#38199485)
Only if you take it literally which you would only do if you were entirely ignorant of American politics or deliberately hiding behind this interpretation to pretend you aren’t actually taking about a broad % of the population
Re:Gleam: a type safe language on the Erlang VM by omginternets on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @08:15PM (#38199653)