The statement was perfect until that last line.
I’m wondering why you’d do that.
Whom did they call "nazi"? Anybody?
If they didn't call any particular person "nazi" then it's unprofessional to suggest they did that.
But the idea that it would even be a concern for there to be “nazi bullshit” in a programming language would require such an absurdly broad definition of nazi that i can only assume whoever wrote this would consider a large % of Americans to be Nazis. This is inherently exclusionary. The statement is bullshit. It isn’t “Friendly <3” as the heading would suggest.
1. Black lives matter.
2. Trans rights are human rights.
3. No nazi bullsh*t.
Phrases 1 & 2 are well-recognized political slogans, and I don't like some of the organizations that have very vocally rallied behind these slogans.
Do you think that makes me a nazi? If not, how welcome do you think this makes me feel?
PS: we know you know this.
1. Black lives matter.
2. Trans rights are human rights.
3. No nazi bullsh*t.
Phrases 1 & 2 are well-recognized political slogans, and I don't like some of the organizations that have very vocally rallied behind these slogans.
Do you think that makes me a nazi? And if not, how welcome do you think this makes me feel?
How would you feel if my org stated “all lives matter” and pretended not to see the problem?
if those sentiments make you feel less welcome, maybe it’s for a reason
And they say "No nazi bullsh*t", which to me is a very loose phrasing with avtivist vibes, meaning I get unsure what exactly they put under the Nazi banner. Is it just actual Nazis or anyone they don't like, or something inbetween?
I think it’s safe to assume that when a community claims to contain “no nazi bullshit”, they mean that it contains no nazis or their associated bullshit. if you’re worried that that includes you or people you sympathize with, ask yourself “_why_?”, because it makes a lot of sense to everyone in the quite active gleam community.
As for the “no nazi bullshit” part, this doesn’t tell me anything except that the community has some childish and unstable people who have a habit of calling everyone they disagree with a nazi. It’s not hard to be “worried that that includes you” when there are plenty of people who would call someone a nazi for just about anything or for being even slightly to the right of them on any issue.
It has very little to do with a literal interpretation of these words, which these types always hide behind because they are cowards, and everything to do with the implicit meaning given broader context.
that's a lot to assume from a couple words on a website, but if you're this fun at parties we must really be missing out.
also btw, hi, it's me, the coward who wrote the prose for the website. tho it wasn't _just_ me that thought it was a good idea. it's done a terrific job of keeping "un-politic" buzz kills away.
(as intended)
This is particularly harmful to women who need female-only spaces away from any males. Any man who calls himself a woman would be able to enter any space designated solely for women, with impunity.
This has already happened in many places that have acceded to 'trans rights' activist demands. It is a political and ideological assault on women's boundaries and consent.
Then why can't I readily find a well defined list of what they are? For reference, the human rights are fairly well defined[1].
Of course trans people should be covered by the human rights. They're human as well, so that goes without saying.
> idk what “problematic statements” you’ve heard
I don't keep an evidence folder, so to speak, so I can't provide references.
However, I think we can agree there are extremists on both ends. It's also not a well-established term, in that it's fairly recent and isn't solidified in the same way as older terms like "human rights". Thus the need to be specific when referencing it.
> it sounds like you need to listen to less ben shapiro
Never knowingly listened to (nor read) Ben Shapiro and I couldn't pick him out in a crowd. I generally don't listen to or read much political commentary.
> I think it’s safe to assume that when a community claims to contain “no nazi bullshit”, they mean that it contains no nazis or their associated bullshit.
No, that is not safe to assume at all because a lot of people misuse "nazi" to mean something very different from actual Nazis, typically someone they strongly disagree with.
[1]: https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-huma...
This is particularly harsh on women who need female-only spaces away from any males.
For example, prisons are sex-segregated to prevent male predation on women. In some places, because of 'trans rights' activism, the authorities have incarcerated men who call themselves women in the female prison estate, and some of these men have sexually assaulted, raped and even impregnated women prisoners who were trapped there with them.
So you will find a lot of radical feminists and gender-critical feminists disagreeing with this slogan on that basis. And many other people too, when they learn about how women are being harmed by this.
> The trans rights are human rights slogan is typically used as a euphemism for removing all single-sex spaces and services
To be clear, the Gleam community does not support the banning of single-sex spaces.