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Re:California wants to end Cupertino's tax deal with Apple by sashank_1509 on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:18AM (#38164568)
All the I love living in California and state government is doing a great job folks, let’s make an honest review of the sunshine state:

1. Homelessness: 6 of the 10 cities with largest homeless population are in Cali. We’ve all been to SF, last time I was there a homeless person literally opened his pants and shit in front of a family restaurant (we all had to leave). So it’s probably the worst in this state compared to all states in US.

2. Housing market: Easily the Bay Area is the worst in the US, probably worst in the entire world to be honest. Entirely self inflicted.

3. Crime: it is NOT NORMAL to have to leave your windows and trunks open when you park to stop criminals from breaking your cars. For the brief period I lived in Seattle, I realized people can just park a car and leave it like that in Seattle, while in sf I’m perpetually paranoid.

For this level of government service we have to deal with the highest taxes seen in this country and plans to consistently increase taxes. A bad joke, if Apple ran the government they’d do a better job tomorrow.

Re:California wants to end Cupertino's tax deal with Apple by bcrosby95 on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:28AM (#38164703)
1. Numbers-wise, this is largely a problem with #2. Most homeless aren't the sidewalk shitting variety. In general, California cities don't round up and kick out their homeless. I never saw sidewalk shitting homeless when I lived in SF, but my understanding is it's gotten worse since I moved out. I live in a suburb of LA and have never seen sidewalk shit down here, unless it was deposited by a dog.

2. This is largely a city-level problem. The state of California is trying to solve it. The cities are NIMBYs and always want someone else to house all the people.

3. This sounds like an SF problem. Again, I don't live there anymore. Keep in mind that less than 3% of the population of California lives in SF.

Re:California wants to end Cupertino's tax deal with Apple by corethree on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:39AM (#38164847)
Original poster here. Lived 10 years in LA and grew up in the bay.

You're right sf is worse.

LA used to be better. Less homeless people. Its largely getting worse and going in the same direction as sf.

It won't ever be as bad as sf because la is simply not dense enough. However the underlying problems are all there and it's getting worse. Santa Monica used to be much nicer. SF is the direction LA is heading towards.

Re:California wants to end Cupertino's tax deal with Apple by mikeg8 on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:22AM (#38164633)
The state is massive. Your review can be summarized to the Bay Area or other major metro areas. Saying the entire state sucks because some large progressive cities are having issues found all over our country is a very weak argument.
Re:California wants to end Cupertino's tax deal with Apple by rpmisms on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:25AM (#38164667)
The majority of the population lives in those metro areas. Seems dark to say it affects most Californians.

Source: former NY state resident, the shit flowed downhill from the city, and we all suffered.

Re:California wants to end Cupertino's tax deal with Apple by jonathankoren on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:42AM (#38164896)
Well one and two and directly connected. Anyway on a per capita basis, DC has the worst homeless problem.

Crime is not an issue. Seriously. It’s not. It’s still at historic lows. Stop pearl clutching. Regardless, the SFPD (and cops in general) do not stop crime. Decades of blank checks, and nothing changes except more lawsuits. Fuck the cops.

Re:California wants to end Cupertino's tax deal with Apple by kuchenbecker on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:52AM (#38165056)
There are 4 lights.

In all seriousness, if people think it's a problem telling them "it's all in their head" isn't an effective argument.

Dismissing legitimate concerns with abstract (to them) statistics will only drive away the people you most want to reach. The statistics are made of millions of individual perspectives.

Re:California wants to end Cupertino's tax deal with Apple by jonathankoren on Monday November 06, 2023 @12:17PM (#38165429)
Maybe you’d be more effective if you didn’t chime in with schoolmarm finger wagging about how we have to just accept absolute propaganda, ol’ Mx The-World-Is-Both-Flat-And-Round