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Re:Who's Behind the Swat USA Reshipping Service? by tw04 on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:02AM (#38164329)
Because the person(s) in question are participating in illegal activities and lost their right to privacy?

The same reason why it’s considered acceptable to out the folks that participated in the watergate scandal, but not ok to out a confidential informant.

Re:Who's Behind the Swat USA Reshipping Service? by forgetfreeman on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:06AM (#38164403)
Loss of right to privacy generally comes after a conviction.
Re:Who's Behind the Swat USA Reshipping Service? by alistairSH on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:34AM (#38164784)
In much of the US, as soon as you're arrested, you're mug shot shows up in the local newspaper with the crime you are alleged to have committed.

And even if you luck out and don't get "doxed" as part of the arrest, you will be outed as soon as your formally charged.

So, no, at least in the US, privacy is not retained until conviction.

Re:Who's Behind the Swat USA Reshipping Service? by forgetfreeman on Monday November 06, 2023 @06:20PM (#38170658)
K. And what legal apparatus was involved with assembling and publicizing the accusations arrayed against this individual?
Re:Who's Behind the Swat USA Reshipping Service? by ceejayoz on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:21AM (#38164615)
No? You mug shot often goes up on the internet at the time of arrest. Allegations against you are generally public leading up to the trial. The proceedings are public, and may be televised.

Even if not charged with a crime, if you do something shitty-but-legal and someone gets a video of it, you're not going to get control over that viral video.

Re:Who's Behind the Swat USA Reshipping Service? by tw04 on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:55AM (#38165095)
>Loss of right to privacy generally comes after a conviction.

Not in the US. I can pull out my local newspaper right now and see a list of everyone who was arrested last week; long before they will be convicted of anything if they're convicted at all. For a lot of them they probably won't even be accused of anything because the other party won't press charges.

Re:Who's Behind the Swat USA Reshipping Service? by karaterobot on Monday November 06, 2023 @12:30PM (#38165672)
There is probable cause involved in an arrest, though. I think that's an important distinction between doxing and becoming part of the criminal justice system. You can certainly argue that there are problems with the system, but it's not the same as just doxing someone on the internet—not in a legal sense, or in a practical sense.

Journalists naming people as part of their work is a third category, and probably the one this falls under. It's dangerous territory, and Krebs stands to lose a lot (i.e. credibility, lawsuits, possible reprisals) by making this allegation if it turns out he didn't do his job right.

Re:Who's Behind the Swat USA Reshipping Service? by flkiwi on Monday November 06, 2023 @12:50PM (#38165961)
Arguably he also stands to lose a lot if he DID do his job right.
Re:Who's Behind the Swat USA Reshipping Service? by JCharante on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:54AM (#38165082)
I know Krebs is very respected in the industry, but it makes me feel uneasy having evidence presented in public outside of a court hearing, a la reddit & the boston bomber.
Re:Who's Behind the Swat USA Reshipping Service? by tw04 on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:59AM (#38165155)
Reddit was actively coordinating going after the wrong person which is an entirely different beast. Krebs is acting as an investigative journalist - he even gave them the opportunity to respond. Your local news stations don't send reporters out to try to talk to local scammers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZdwwpzvqHA

Re:Who's Behind the Swat USA Reshipping Service? by JCharante on Monday November 06, 2023 @03:04PM (#38168135)
You make a valid point and have changed my mind. Investigative journalists do do that. I guess I don't really see Krebs as a journalist so it feels "wrong" to me, but when you put it that way, if it was Anderson Cooper on live TV showing this proof it wouldn't feel "wrong".
Re:Who's Behind the Swat USA Reshipping Service? by InSteady on Tuesday November 07, 2023 @12:32PM (#38179914)
The implications of closing off public discussion of facts (and opinions/speculation) surrounding nefarious deeds are horrific.