News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:The surprisingly subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed h... by mtlmtlmtlmtl on Sunday November 05, 2023 @07:29AM (#38150558)
There are, but we just skip the AM/PM part most of time, because it's obvious from context which one you mean. And if it's not you'll just say "... in the morning/afternoon/evening"
Re:The surprisingly subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed h... by tomrod on Sunday November 05, 2023 @09:39AM (#38151497)
AM: morning, PM: afternoon/evening
Re:The surprisingly subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed h... by tgaj on Sunday November 05, 2023 @09:47AM (#38151585)
Yeah, but this is the problem - why noon is "afternoon"?
Re:The surprisingly subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed h... by xen0 on Sunday November 05, 2023 @10:29AM (#38151926)
"12:00:00 + ε" is after noon, but your clock will not show a difference.
Re:The surprisingly subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed h... by tomrod on Sunday November 05, 2023 @10:55AM (#38152209)
Clopen intervals in order to have a well-specified time system.

[0] [12:00 PM, 12:00 AM) for after the noon instant

[1] [12:00 AM, 12:00 PM) for before the noon instant

24-hour time is superior to the mod-12 time system in almost every way but mechanical clock faces and soldier shifts under early systems that used sun dials. However, the equivalent question can be asked by a day is a clopen interval of [00:00 current day, 00:00 next day)

Re:The surprisingly subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed h... by eesmith on Sunday November 05, 2023 @12:22PM (#38153216)
In 24-hour time, those are 12-24 and 0-12, respectively. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

A place open 24 hours/day is open in the period 0-24.

Re:The surprisingly subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed h... by tomrod on Sunday November 05, 2023 @02:10PM (#38154500)
I don't follow your point. Are you correcting my point on clopen intervals and mod bases?
Re:The surprisingly subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed h... by eesmith on Sunday November 05, 2023 @04:55PM (#38156042)
I think clopen is too complicated in that it expresses ranges that are not practically useful, like (10,11], and it complicates expressing something like "Open 0-24", where your notation appears to require a date.

I think you get the essential utility you want in a 24 hour clock by simply letting 24 (or "24:00:00" when fully written out) be a way to represent the end of the day.

It's also already in use, with examples at https://ioi2023.hu/faq/ , http://www.garageferrarimilazzo.com/en/ , and https://jozsefvaros.hu/english/news-in-the-district/2022/12/... .

Re:The surprisingly subtle ways Microsoft Word has changed h... by yjftsjthsd-h on Sunday November 05, 2023 @12:23PM (#38153237)
Noon isn't really before or after noon, but we want to lump it together with one of them, so we picked the one that made 12:00 and 12:01 go together. (Edit: or for that matter, 12:00:00 and 12:00:01, down to arbitrary closeness, as sibling comment points out)