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Re:Shinzo Abe's Assassination by nijave on Saturday November 04, 2023 @10:49AM (#38141513)
Not sure if it's just me but I routinely get stuck in a captcha redirect loop with archive.today (like captcha button, get redirected back to same captcha page)
Re:Shinzo Abe's Assassination by lionsdan on Saturday November 04, 2023 @11:03AM (#38141655)
The same thing happened to me on a different article yesterday using Firefox. It worked using Edge.
Re:Shinzo Abe's Assassination by garciansmith on Saturday November 04, 2023 @11:10AM (#38141741)
There's a longstanding issue with using Cloudflare DNS. If you change Firefox's secure DNS provider settings to NextDNS the page loads without any captcha.
Re:Shinzo Abe's Assassination by WarOnPrivacy on Saturday November 04, 2023 @04:30PM (#38144828)
This is not the longstanding Cloudflare issue. That made Archive sties totally unreachable.

This Captcha issue occurs with non-cloudflare resolvers as well, although with great inconsistency. It depends on the resolver and the user's location when they query. Results can change hours later.

Re:Shinzo Abe's Assassination by bombcar on Saturday November 04, 2023 @11:10AM (#38141735)
Change DNS to not use Cloudflare.
Re:Shinzo Abe's Assassination by jyunwai on Saturday November 04, 2023 @12:08PM (#38142332)
Yes. For me, I found that I changed my DNS server to Cloudflare with the AdGuard software installed on MacOS a while back (AdGuard > Preferences > DNS), and changing this to a different server fixed it.

I also used the command `sudo dscacheutil -flushcache; sudo killall -HUP mDNSResponder` on Terminal (double-check this command before using) to flush the DNS cache, so the change would immediately take effect with the archive websites.

Re:Shinzo Abe's Assassination by WarOnPrivacy on Saturday November 04, 2023 @04:24PM (#38144767)
This is a separate issue from the previous Cloudflare issue and it manifests differently.

Getting Captcha'd happens with non-cloudflare resolvers as well, tho not universally nor consistently.

I forced all of Archive domains to query against Quad9 and started getting unskipable Captchas months ago - when I was local(US).

When I placeshifted to overseas, Quad9 resolved to different IPs and those were usable.

Re:Shinzo Abe's Assassination by bombcar on Saturday November 04, 2023 @07:12PM (#38146199)
The technical reasons behind it are that the archive.today guy wants any takedown notices to be cross-border, so he wants to know what country you are in so he can redirect you to a server outside it.

Cloudflare doesn't support a DNS extension that allows this (eDNS maybe?) and so it fails.

Re:Shinzo Abe's Assassination by WarOnPrivacy on Monday November 06, 2023 @01:55PM (#38167021)
Captcha pages are being served at IPs that don't come from CloudFlare. ex: Users who exclusively resolve thru Quad9 are getting Captcha pages.

Any inference that the Captcha issue is limited to CloudFlare users is incorrect.

Re:Shinzo Abe's Assassination by haraldooo on Saturday November 04, 2023 @11:00AM (#38141635)
It’s the same for me
Re:Shinzo Abe's Assassination by latchkey on Saturday November 04, 2023 @01:48PM (#38143406)
Same with me for a few weeks now. Turned on my vpn and things worked. So the other suggestion to not use cloudflare dns is probably what is happening under the covers. Archive doesn't like CF at all.