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Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by opportune on Thursday November 02, 2023 @09:24PM (#38123120)
I really don’t think they should have let the rest of the executive team walk, especially Ellison. They knew what they were doing too, and I’m sure they could have built a strong enough case to convince SBF and the others through plea deals and such
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by jraines on Thursday November 02, 2023 @09:33PM (#38123223)
Not sure about the others but I don’t think Ellison is walking. Her reward for cooperation was just a letter to the sentencing judge noting her cooperation.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by opportune on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:02PM (#38123456)
Not true. The prosecution agreed to only pursue criminal tax violations. See my other comment.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by phire on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:30PM (#38123675)
She pled guilty to 7 counts. 1 Count of actual wire fraud and 6 counts of various "Conspiracy to commit wire fraud, commodes fraud, securities fraud and money laundering". They have a total maximum sentence of 110 years.

Prosecution agreed to not pursue any additional charges, except perhaps criminal tax violations.

Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by JackFr on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:15PM (#38123559)
IANAL, but I think you misunderstand her plea agreement.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by compiler-guy on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:56PM (#38124308)
The plea deal also includes the prosecution electing to charge her with much lesser crimes than they otherwise could.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by fred_is_fred on Thursday November 02, 2023 @09:34PM (#38123226)
She still faces jail time even with the plea and cooperation.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by StressedDev on Thursday November 02, 2023 @09:43PM (#38123304)
None of them "walked". They all pled guilty and have not been sentenced.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by opportune on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:01PM (#38123444)
Man, I'm low on sleep and making mistakes. I misunderstood the cooperation agreement[0] to mean she would only be prosecuted for criminal tax violations. I see now she has plead guilty to fraud though [1].

[0] https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23495436/crypto-coope...

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/12/21/caroline-...

Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by JackFr on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:13PM (#38123545)
> "the defendant will not be further prosecuted criminally by this Office for any crimes, except for criminal tax violations"

That has nothing to do with her sentencing and is typical of any plea agreement. I’m not going to plead guilty to crimes without the guarantee that you’ll not charge me with more. What would be the point of pleading guilty then?

Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by opportune on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:15PM (#38123561)
You're right, I was just editing my comment as you posted that. I'm going to go be quiet now lol.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by blindriver on Thursday November 02, 2023 @09:47PM (#38123336)
SBF is going to be pardoned by the Dems. Guaranteed. He donated far too much money for him not to be pardoned. Not just to reward SBF, but to signal to anyone else that the Dems have their back if they donate enough. The same goes for the Republicans as well. Trump pardoned Levandowski as one of his final acts as president.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by ctvo on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:16PM (#38123566)
The world doesn’t work this way. Not because it’s just or that there’s no corruption: it’s because there’s little benefit to Joe Biden. This is a high profile case. It’ll only trigger more scrutiny into everything. And Sam is an isolated, broke man with no friends. Why would anyone help him for money he’s already given?

You’re way off base.

Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by peyton on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:39PM (#38123769)
The campaign finance trial is next March I believe. Could also trigger more scrutiny into everything if Sam pleads not guilty. I think guy’s stuck in prison, but who knows. A guilty plea from Sam might be preferable.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by LastTrain on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:14PM (#38123547)
You have a tell :-)
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by amanaplanacanal on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:13PM (#38123539)
That seems extremely unlikely.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by davidham on Thursday November 02, 2023 @09:55PM (#38123400)
I’ll bet you $1,000 USD he does not get pardoned by Biden.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by blindriver on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:17PM (#38123576)
Let me clarify, he won't pardon SBF before the 2024 elections, but afterwards he will, either in 2025 or 2029 on the last day of his term. And if Biden dies, then his VP will pardon SBF.

I would definitely take the $1000 bet, but I don't make bets with strangers who probably won't pay up.

Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by quickthrower2 on Friday November 03, 2023 @04:18AM (#38125883)
You might find a prediction market you can bet in.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by ncallaway on Thursday November 02, 2023 @09:48PM (#38123345)
If SBF is pardoned by Joe Biden, or any other Democratic president, I will make a $2,000 donation to the charity of your choice.

It's not going to happen. 0% chance.

Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by az226 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @09:53PM (#38123379)
Agreed.
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by austhrow743 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @09:55PM (#38123397)
Can you provide precedent?
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by john_miller on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:05PM (#38123482)
Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by austhrow743 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @10:21PM (#38123605)
Marc Rich appears to have been comparable in severity of fraud but avoided conviction let alone all the other attention grabbing things Sam has done. Not to mention all the Israel connections.

If Sam has a pardon coming then he’s done as much as he possibly can to make it damaging to the pardoner. Can’t see it happening. Parents, maybe. They haven’t played this like asshats.

Re:Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all charges by upupupandaway on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:28PM (#38124118)
Nobody is walking. All of them will be jailed, but some will get lighter sentences.