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Re:Yann LeCun: AI one-percenters seizing power forever is re... by varjag on Thursday November 02, 2023 @06:43AM (#38111563)
Threat of war is always the final argument in international affairs, and you can tell how serious a treaty is by how directly it acknowledges that fact.

Montreal Protocol have worked despite no threats of violence, on a not entirely dissimilar problem. Tho I share the skepticism on solution to alignment problem.

Re:Yann LeCun: AI one-percenters seizing power forever is re... by TeMPOraL on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:27AM (#38111903)
That's a great and very relevant case study, thanks for bringing it up!

The way I understand, it worked because alternatives to the ozone-destroying chemicals were known to be possible, and the costs of getting manufacturers to switch, as well as further R&D, weren't that big. I bucket it as a particularly high-profile example of the same class as most other international treaties: agreements that aren't too painful to follow.

Now in contrast to that, climate agreements are extremely painful to follow - and right now countries choose to make a fake effort without actually following. With a hypothetical AI agreement, the potential upsides of going full-steam ahead are significant, there are no known non-dangerous alternatives, so it won't be followed unless it comes with hard, painful consequences. Both climate change and AI risk are more similar to nuclear proliferation issue.

Re:Yann LeCun: AI one-percenters seizing power forever is re... by pixl97 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:45PM (#38118174)
You mean kind of worked... global CFC emissions are on the rise again.