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Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by Paul-Craft on Thursday November 02, 2023 @03:38AM (#38110114)
Where are you talking about? In the US, borders are very much not open. Getting an non-employment based immigrant visa without the sponsorship of a family member is nearly impossible, and getting an employment-based visa is complicated enough that only large companies will even offer visa sponsorship.

Even assuming you have a good answer for that, what makes you think it matters? Birth rates are falling globally. Open borders only forestalls the inevitable.

Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by Mountain_Skies on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:28AM (#38110498)
You think undocumented immigrants aren't humans? Sorry, but I tried to abide by the HN rule to take the most charitable interpretation of your post, but I simply can't find one. You seem to completely dismiss the existence of this rapidly growing population simply because it's not one you belong to personally.
Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by Paul-Craft on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:30AM (#38110513)
You're not trying hard enough. "Open borders" does not mean literally "people can physically cross the border." It's a statement about who is and isn't legally allowed to immigrate. Accusing me of denying the humanity of undocumented immigrants is extreme bad faith, and you should feel bad about it.
Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by ffgjgf1 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:44AM (#38110604)
I really don’t think you’re making your argument in good faith. Is the artificial outrage really that necessary in this case?

> charitable interpretation of your post, but I simply can't find one

Most reasonable people would find one.

Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by wizerdrobe on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:59AM (#38110707)
Doing it the right way is, sadly, comically hard.

Coming to the border, making a (legitimate|illegitimate) asylum claim, being processed, given a Notice to Appear, and being released into the interior of the United States is as easy as a $1-2,000 payment to smugglers.

From there, either working under the table or working off of a stolen identity is the norm. Thankfully, the latter is hard because the United States has a robust identity verification system with the secure, secret identifier known as the Social Security Number and thankfully all states require employment verification to prevent abuse of stolen identities and the abuse of these workers.

Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by ReptileMan on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:39AM (#38112019)
>and being released into the interior of the United States is as easy as a $1-2,000 payment to smugglers

People are just walking over the border nowadays, not sure if smugglers are even needed.

Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by robertlagrant on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:29AM (#38111921)
I don't know about "open borders" but about a million people a year come into the US; about 400k humanitarian migrants and 400k non-working immigration visas in 2022.

I don't think you can say that that's "nearly impossible", and even if it is, the numbers are still very large; by far the most in the world.

Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by johnnyanmac on Friday November 03, 2023 @12:00AM (#38124340)
US has been the melting pot of the world for centuries, so I'm not surprised it has the most in the world.

That said, this shrinking growth is a worldwide issue. Unless America imports more Africans (again...) and other 3rd world countries to try and balance things out, it's going to be a rough gen Alpha and beyond.

Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by nradov on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:47AM (#38115202)
In the US, borders are de jure tightly controlled but de facto open. Anyone who sneaks across the border and claims refugee status can stay indefinitely. Very few are actually deported. Many of them receive temporary work authorizations, and even those who don't are able to find casual jobs for cash.