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Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by paxys on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:09PM (#38104273)
The technical reason is that by restricting upload speed they can offer a higher download speed, and that is what most users care about.
Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by wing-_-nuts on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:21PM (#38104488)
I find that reasoning suspicious. Ever notice how most of the muni and coop internet providers offer a symmetrical speed while att and comcast don't? My bet is that there's no real technical limitation, it's simply price segmentation.
Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by paxys on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:25PM (#38104574)
Fiber is symmetric, coax is not. This isn't some grand conspiracy, just how the underlying engineering works.
Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by orra on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:38PM (#38104810)
In the UK, Openreach FTTP is heavily asymmetric. Network operators aren't entirely at the whims of asymmetric standards: network operators want asymmetric services.
Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by wmf on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:26PM (#38104586)
There is a technical limitation on cable and DSL networks but not on other techs like fiber or wireless.
Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by vel0city on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @05:08PM (#38105282)
AT&T does offer symmetrical speeds. Most PON-based FTTH ISPs I've encountered do.

There are technical reasons for offering asymmetrical speeds when it comes to coax connections. There's only so many channels on the wire, a lot are still dedicated to television, people mostly only care about download, so they prioritize it. PONs don't carry television and are just fundamentally different in design, so its easier for them to support symmetrical bandwidth.

Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by andersa on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:16PM (#38104401)
This is nonsense. Fiber cables are always capable of the same speed in both directions at once. The actual reason is so they can sell you an overpriced "business" plan if you need upload speeds from the current decade.
Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by paxys on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:18PM (#38104438)
A very small part of the country is connected by fiber, and fiber connections are always symmetrical. The vast majority of consumers still get internet via coax cables, and bandwidth is very much an issue on those.
Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by derefr on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:31PM (#38104682)
No, a very small part of the last mile is connected by fiber. Trunking is always fiber these days. As are local neighbourhood branch points, if your provider evolved from a telephone company. (If you live in an apartment building served by an ex-telephone ISP, you likely have fiber run all the way to the network closet of your building, with only the per-subscriber in-wall wiring switching over to copper.)

ISPs that evolved from cable companies might still be using cable hubs with a common collision domain, but only a relatively small number of subscribers will be riding the same copper — it’s just cheaper these days to convert the signal to fiber as early in the signal path as possible. Plastic wires are cheaper than metal wires, and you need fewer of them (and so fewer switches.)

Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by IntelMiner on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:29PM (#38104643)
Yes, *fiber* can. But the majority of Americans use Cable/HFC (DOCSIS) technologies. These were designed as a one-to-many closed loop TV broadcast on a coax line. Except with the incoming DOCSIS 4.0 deployments it's always been asymmetric as a limitation of the technology
Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by 0x0000000 on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:19PM (#38104460)
Fiber is not ubiquitous. Many of us are still on DOCSIS over copper, in which case the person you are replying to is exactly correct: upload speed can be reduced for additional download speed.
Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by aidenn0 on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:19PM (#38104464)
True FTTH is naturally symmetric; PON is not nor is Cable.
Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by dylan604 on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:24PM (#38104565)
No, I think you might be confused. We all know that the fiber for the download link is at least 10x wider than the fiber for the upload channel. There's just no way to squeeze the same number of bits through the smaller "tube" /s
Re:FCC to propose a minimum 100mbps to qualify as broadband,... by aaronax on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @05:25PM (#38105537)
Though the fiber system as a whole may not be capable of symmetry. For example GPON with 2.5gbps/1.25gbps up/down and 10G-PON at 10/2.5 up/down.