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Re:US-led coalition of nations agrees to end ransomware paym... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @11:55AM (#38086837)
> there absolutely will be a legal way that you can't do much about

No, that’s what the sanctions threat is for. It may be possible. But now you’re in the company of money launderers and terrorism financiers.

To be clear, I don’t think this is necessary. But it’s naïve to imagine it’s beyond D.C.’s capacity.

Re:US-led coalition of nations agrees to end ransomware paym... by bombcar on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @12:42PM (#38087611)
DC doesn't go after these "security consulting firms located in non-signatory states" just precisely because they want to be able to use them if the need arises.
Re:US-led coalition of nations agrees to end ransomware paym... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @12:51PM (#38087765)
> DC doesn't go after these "security consulting firms located in non-signatory states" just precisely because they want to be able to use them

You are vastly overestimating the federal government’s coherence and coördination. Yes, we use black hats. Yes, we still jail and sanction them.

Re:US-led coalition of nations agrees to end ransomware paym... by bostik on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @02:37PM (#38089380)
Which is straight out of Macchiavelli's playbook.

The first thing you do after conquering the throne is to bundle up all your pending atrocities in one and eliminate competition. The second thing you do is slaughter the mercenaries you had hired to win your war of ascension.

No reason to leave them around and let the next usurper hire them to dethrone you.

Re:US-led coalition of nations agrees to end ransomware paym... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @04:22PM (#38090819)
In practice, it typically happens across administrations, i.e. the effect is accidental. (We forget what an asset having a fresh executive every decade makes.)
Re:US-led coalition of nations agrees to end ransomware paym... by PeterisP on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @06:54AM (#38096700)
IIRC feds have gone against companies using some third-party consultants to pay a ransom that eventually went to a entity on US sanctions list like Iran or North Korea. Or at least they have loudly threatened to do so.

Also, there have been some enforcement actions on intermediaries for facilitating such payments - e.g. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0471

Re:US-led coalition of nations agrees to end ransomware paym... by varjag on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @12:55PM (#38087845)
It took what, over two decades to convince Switzerland and Austria to get on board for (part of) money laundering treaties? And ransom(ware) is not anywhere as pressing.
Re:US-led coalition of nations agrees to end ransomware paym... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @12:57PM (#38087882)
> took what, over two decades to convince Switzerland and Austria to get on board for (part of) money laundering treaties

Yet they still complied with U.S. sanctions. (Or were arrested abroad for defying them.)

You seem to misunderstand that sanctions are not a treaty obligation. If your country deals with a sanctioned entity, it gets sanctioned as well. That enforces compliance indirectly. America and and does unilaterally extend sanctions.

Re:US-led coalition of nations agrees to end ransomware paym... by varjag on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @01:09PM (#38088058)
Thanks, it's great to know that money laundering is a solved problem.
Re:US-led coalition of nations agrees to end ransomware paym... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @01:13PM (#38088122)
> it's great to know that money laundering is a solved problem

We don’t sanction money launderers generally. And no, terrorism finance isn’t a solved problem either. Hence why I said one would need to keep company with that category of people were such a measure enacted. But again, your K&R retiree cum schoolteacher was describing a political constraint. Not a functional one.