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Re:I Accidentally Saved My Company Half a Million Dollars by foobiekr on Monday October 30, 2023 @12:43PM (#38071915)
I see stuff like this every day. It is a natural consequence of people who only “develop” by gluing things together. God help them if they’d actually have to write some core function themselves.
Re:I Accidentally Saved My Company Half a Million Dollars by pphysch on Monday October 30, 2023 @01:01PM (#38072177)
The worst kind of "DevOps engineer" that doesn't really understand development, operations, or engineering.

But hey, they can run some docker and git commands and piddle around an AWS GUI, which means they are highly technical.

Re:I Accidentally Saved My Company Half a Million Dollars by candiodari on Monday October 30, 2023 @01:46PM (#38072898)
You don't give enough credit to organization chart and project driven engineering.

When developing anything:

1) you don't get to touch anyone else's code. And another department's code? Something another manager's team manages ... that amounts to treason. Never for any reason. MAYBE if they've totally abandoned it and you absolutely need it (but only during unpaid overtime)

2) you don't get to spend ANY time on anything outside of the current project or JIRA ticket. Any time at all. So really, NOT optimizing anything is faster and cheaper. Just look at all the spreadsheets made!

Re:I Accidentally Saved My Company Half a Million Dollars by wredue on Monday October 30, 2023 @05:13PM (#38075934)
>piddle around in an AWS GUI

I’ve had enough calls with the “Senior/Technical Lead Azure Cloud Engineers” telling them exactly what they need to do that me and them really really don’t get along.

I don’t do any of that shit and even I can muddy my way through it, but these people cannot. The real kicker of it is how much these people make.

And you know how there are those people who, every time you need to work with them, they answer a teams call and then “need to get to my computer, give me 5” and their status is perpetually set to away? I don’t want to RTO at all, but dealing with this team almost makes me think I’m wrong about that.

Re:I Accidentally Saved My Company Half a Million Dollars by vsareto on Monday October 30, 2023 @01:58PM (#38073151)
>It is a natural consequence of people who only “develop” by gluing things together. God help them if they’d actually have to write some core function themselves.

That's on the industry for not training and gating well. It would be nice to have glue/plumber positions so expectations are not out of line too.

Re:I Accidentally Saved My Company Half a Million Dollars by foobiekr on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @03:05PM (#38089816)
I don’t think most of the coders who end up in glue code positions are actually trainable.

Agree solidly on the gating aspect though.

The problem is that quality hires continue to be rare and at some level you are doing area-under-the-curve reasoning.