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Re:Why cloud bandwidth is so obscenely expensive and what yo... by swatcoder on Thursday October 26, 2023 @01:12PM (#38028630)
Heathen! Not everyone can afford that PhD in enterprise class hardware management you must have earned to pull this off. And besides, what are you going to do when you wake up tomorrow and you're the next FAANG? You'll never scale to 2B DAU on that box and we all need to be ready for that, just in case. I knew a guy who knew a guy who founded a FAANG, so it could happen to you too. You have to be ready!

/s

Re:Why cloud bandwidth is so obscenely expensive and what yo... by Syonyk on Thursday October 26, 2023 @01:29PM (#38028853)
Oof. Thanks for the /s, I've quite literally heard that argument from people before for "cloud." That you have to design to scale, physical hardware can't scale rapidly, etc.

I assume, if I suddenly had reason to scale, I could call my colo and get another slot from them pretty darn quick. They're local and quite responsive, though I do get a feeling their "public shared rack" offering was created to deal with me. I was the first server in it...

Re:Why cloud bandwidth is so obscenely expensive and what yo... by roncesvalles on Thursday October 26, 2023 @01:30PM (#38028876)
But seriously, for scaling up, just have a plan for how to move things to the cloud quickly. Containerization and building everything on Kubernetes help.
Re:Why cloud bandwidth is so obscenely expensive and what yo... by Syonyk on Thursday October 26, 2023 @01:38PM (#38028999)
Or don't!

Not everything "has to scale." My stuff isn't built to, and I see no reason to do so.

It's my personal server. I run some stuff for my convenience, a quiet backwaters community forum, a Matrix chat server, etc. If any of that really starts to ramp up, I can always split it out into its own VM. If it exceeds what my current server can handle (exceedingly unlikely), I'll go rack up another box for it. And if I get a super sudden spike in traffic, something is probably quite weird. The only thing likely to see that is my personal blog site, which I already have cached in Cloudflare with a typical ~60% cache hit rate, going up north of 90% if there's a spike in traffic, because, being a static site, I've told CF to cache "literally everything there."

I probably could move most of my stuff to "the cloud" in an evening's sysadmin, but... why? I already went through the process of moving it off the cloud to save myself an awful lot of money.

Re:Why cloud bandwidth is so obscenely expensive and what yo... by bombcar on Thursday October 26, 2023 @02:01PM (#38029347)
The easiest plan for scaling up is "don't buy the literal biggest server out there" because if you at all MAKE money when you're scaling up, you'll be able to do a hardware swap to a massive device, which will buy you tons of time to work out what to do next.

Here's Let's Encrypt doing just that: https://letsencrypt.org/2021/01/21/next-gen-database-servers...