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Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by melling on Thursday October 26, 2023 @09:46AM (#38025456)
Perhaps a little causation could be added to each point.

How does kicking out the US army improve GDP?

Which sanctions are causing the problem?

Which US wars are impeding growth?

The economy seems to be a black box. Understanding how to turn the knobs is so much guesswork. At least it appears that way.

Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by kkzz99 on Thursday October 26, 2023 @09:52AM (#38025552)
> Which sanctions are causing the problem?

Sanctions on Russia and the US refusal to allow Europe to buy cheap energy from Russia.

> Which US wars are impeding growth?

The US proxy war in Ukraine. The upcoming proxy war in Taiwan.

Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by mminer237 on Thursday October 26, 2023 @09:57AM (#38025636)
Europe has largely been behind the US economically ever since being decimated by the World Wars. Allowing Russia to freely expand without penalty is undoubtedly the worse economic decision.
Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by 4gotunameagain on Thursday October 26, 2023 @10:25AM (#38026024)
That is if you believe the threats in the news that Russia is an enemy of Europe, which is of course not. Any claim that Russia would plan to invade the EU is just propaganda. A little knowledge of history suffices to recognise that.
Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by linhns on Thursday October 26, 2023 @10:59AM (#38026453)
Russia is, and will always be an enemy. They will never drop their imperialist ideals until possibly beaten in Ukraine. If they have a chance they'll take the Baltic countries and maybe Poland. A little knowledge of history suffices to recognise that.
Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by ryan93 on Thursday October 26, 2023 @11:05AM (#38026544)
the main reason they wont do it is because the economies and populations facing them in that case would be worth over 40 trillion have almost a billion people.
Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by mrguyorama on Thursday October 26, 2023 @11:22AM (#38026792)
Like the time it was propaganda that Russia was going to invade ukraine?
Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by alexb_ on Thursday October 26, 2023 @09:54AM (#38025579)
Defending free Ukranian land from Russian invasion is important to keep American influence across the globe. Your comment about Taiwan is just a complete conjecture, but we would absolutely respond the same way w/ Taiwan as we are with Ukraine. More USA influence over the world = a freer, richer, more democratic, happier world. Of course you should want as much of it as possible.
Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by csomar on Thursday October 26, 2023 @10:06AM (#38025759)
I think he covered your comment in

> - Emancipate both politically and economically

Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by xtian on Thursday October 26, 2023 @10:25AM (#38026025)
Conjecture? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/us-air-fo...

Is Ukraine free when the US is meddling in its internal politics and orchestrating coups to protect ‘American influence’? Where is the freedom and riches you promise in all the countries the US has bombed over the past 60 years?

Protecting ‘American influence’ = an unending payday for the corrupt military-industrial complex monopolies and nothing more.

Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by miroljub on Thursday October 26, 2023 @11:51AM (#38027269)
> ... mportant to keep American influence across the globe ... More USA influence over the world = a freer, richer, more democratic, happier world

You just proved my point about US imperialism and "protecting its interest" around the globe is the main economic hindrance for both Europe, and the rest of the world.

You can't be rich if you are under the control of an evil empire. Even if you claim that being colonized is for their own good, the US is still an evil empire, since all empires are evil by definition.

Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by seanmcdirmid on Thursday October 26, 2023 @11:52AM (#38027292)
The USA has not colonized either Ukraine or Taiwan, nor are US troops stationed or even probably present in either country.
Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by miroljub on Thursday October 26, 2023 @12:15PM (#38027704)
The US organized the coup in Ukraine, overthrew the legally elected president, installed a puppet government, and started preparing it for the full on war against Russia. And the country is full of US and vassal military equipment and staff coordinating the war effort.

Taiwan is too far away from the place I live, so I didn't bother to check, but it may as well be the same, except for the coup part.

Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by seanmcdirmid on Thursday October 26, 2023 @12:17PM (#38027743)
> The US organized the coup in Ukraine, overthrew the legally elected president, installed a puppet government

That is a narrative that is majorly rejected outside of Russia. Inside Russia, this is taken on faith, because, well, its Russia.

Of course, invading and occupying parts of a country isn't considered as imperialism in Russia itself if its the one doing it, because..well..its Russia.

Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by slaw on Thursday October 26, 2023 @01:49PM (#38029149)
There was nothing wrong with organizing a coup in Ukraine and getting rid of pro Russian president and government. I have no idea why you think that narrative is rejected outside of Russia.
Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by lttlrck on Thursday October 26, 2023 @09:58AM (#38025642)
Shouldn't you be directing your anger at Russia and China?
Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by MattGaiser on Thursday October 26, 2023 @10:20AM (#38025944)
> US refusal to allow Europe to buy cheap energy from Russia

Europeans passed laws to cut it off. Nothing American did. Europeans don't want to fund the guns that will be used by Russians when they decide who to invade next.

Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by hnthrowaway0315 on Thursday October 26, 2023 @09:54AM (#38025576)
Violence is the ultimate judiciary of power and henceforth $$.

You kick out US army to gain independence, to grow up, to sit down as a major player.

Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by ModernMech on Thursday October 26, 2023 @09:58AM (#38025645)
I don’t think pissing off the largest military power in the world is a good idea for Europe when there’s currently a hot war going on there. That spreads and who do you think Europe will be asking for help?
Re:U.S. GDP grew at a 4.9% annual pace in the third quarter,... by hnthrowaway0315 on Thursday October 26, 2023 @11:23AM (#38026806)
God, you don't kick out US army in one shot. You build your army up to the task and then elbow the others out.

I mean, it's going to be a lot of expenses, but it's the crucial first step if EU wants its own independent policies.

That said, just my personal opinion. I could be wrong. Maybe it's perfectly fine to have someone else's army on your soil. Maybe you already have independent policies but just happen to agree to the other side more or less. I'm not of EU or US citizen so I could be wrong.