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Re:The Academic Great Gatsby Curve by ostbender on Thursday October 26, 2023 @09:17AM (#38025114)
Everywhere you look, in nature and in society, you will find inequality, and some people always present it as a moral wrong.
Re:The Academic Great Gatsby Curve by harimau777 on Thursday October 26, 2023 @09:30AM (#38025258)
It seems to me that one of the primary purposes of society it to mitigate the inequality found in nature. That is to say: A system where the strong and/or lucky thrive and the weak and/or unlucky suffer doesn't need society, it's what happens by default. People band together into a society in order to thrive collectively despite their various weaknesses.
Re:The Academic Great Gatsby Curve by AlbertCory on Thursday October 26, 2023 @04:15PM (#38031144)
No, that's only your opinion. Millenia of scholarship about societal origins have never said that.
Re:The Academic Great Gatsby Curve by harimau777 on Saturday October 28, 2023 @11:19PM (#38055586)
Not really, it's basically what Hobbes argues in Leviathan.

What are you basing your assertion upon?

Re:The Academic Great Gatsby Curve by AlbertCory on Saturday October 28, 2023 @11:50PM (#38055701)
No, he doesn't. That's your gloss on Hobbes. He didn't mean "inequality" in the modern liberal sense that you are using it. You cannot import modern "thinking" (if that's the word for it) back to the 18th Century.

I suppose you're going to seize on the word "inequality" here:

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-hccc-worldhistory2/ch...

Re:The Academic Great Gatsby Curve by terminous on Thursday October 26, 2023 @09:28AM (#38025228)
> Everywhere you look, in nature and in society, you will find inequality, and some people always present it as a moral wrong.

Everywhere you look, in nature and society, you will find violence, and some people always present it as a moral wrong.

Just because something is natural, normal, or always present doesn't mean that thing is good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

Re:The Academic Great Gatsby Curve by ostbender on Thursday October 26, 2023 @10:20AM (#38025946)
Violence in itself is not morally wrong or right, what a bizarre statement.
Re:The Academic Great Gatsby Curve by gosub100 on Thursday October 26, 2023 @10:28AM (#38026072)
we live in the age where victimhood (the umbrella over inequality) is harvested for social capital. The data doesn't matter anymore, it's just who can make their cause du-jour into the biggest tragedy. This is why it will never stop, they will never be satisfied, only move on to some other tragedy after they use their harvested capital for political gain.