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Re:Advice to a Novice Programmer by user3939382 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @05:01PM (#38018331)
Theory vs career training in college is not a simple issue. In reality many students are going to college because they want a job, that’s the goal, that’s why they’re there, that’s why they’re paying. Employers want graduates with practical skills.

This is a huge divergence from the University landscape in the 20s for example, where the purpose really commonly was “we’re here to think thoughts, for their own sake.”

I don’t necessarily mind the latter, it has a role and purpose for humanity, but it’s also not compatible with the existing paradigm that every HS grad has to go to college and accumulate debt to have any chance at a career.

Colleges do need to get real about their contemporary role or accept massive scaling back. Right now college enrollment is shrinking because of these issues.

Re:Advice to a Novice Programmer by pictureofabear on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @08:43PM (#38020260)
And trade school enrollments are up. https://thehustle.co/04242023-trade-school-enrollment/

Universities will need to get used to smaller enrollments.

https://www.bestcolleges.com/research/college-enrollment-sta....

Re:Advice to a Novice Programmer by throwaway5959 on Thursday October 26, 2023 @01:32AM (#38021970)
Everyone going to trade schools is just as stupid a line of thinking as everyone going to college, and yet I hear the former now all the time.
Re:Advice to a Novice Programmer by mnky9800n on Thursday October 26, 2023 @03:12AM (#38022650)
What if we combined universities and trade schools then we kill two birds with one stone.
Re:Advice to a Novice Programmer by user3939382 on Thursday October 26, 2023 @06:30AM (#38023818)
That’s already happening in many cases as universities launch their own clock hour programs.
Re:Advice to a Novice Programmer by namaria on Thursday October 26, 2023 @04:10AM (#38023032)
The human tendency to decree how large scale, complex systems ought to be never ceases to amaze me. Everyone thinks they understand and have the right opinion about problems that have been with civilization for 5 thousand years or more.

The very nature of economics and education paradigms means the continuous adjustment is the correct process. Yet all sorts of people who never had to be responsible for more then a household and some team of workers think they have the answer.

Re:Advice to a Novice Programmer by fsckboy on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @10:49PM (#38021120)
> This is a huge divergence from the University landscape in the 20s

we're still in the 20s