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Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by pc2slow4webpack on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @05:21AM (#38010881)
Tangentially related, apparently Sentry's own post mentioned in the article was removed from HN according this tweet https://x.com/bentlegen/status/1716884717394670015?s=20. Does anyone know the circumstances regarding why?
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by cuu508 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @05:26AM (#38010917)
Maybe they removed a duplicate?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38001924

Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by dtech on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @05:54AM (#38011088)
They probably mean the post manually removed or pushed down off the front page, not literally removed.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by the_mitsuhiko on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @06:08AM (#38011182)
> Does anyone know the circumstances regarding why?

As someone working at Sentry my running theory of this is that we're not a YC funded startup and the posts are removed for marketing. Removal in this sense is that the post is still there, but it's pushed down in rankings artificially to be removed from the first two pages.

//EDIT: the explanation given last year was that it "wasn't interesting": https://twitter.com/chadwhitacre_/status/1716947994338021885

Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by radicalbyte on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @08:09AM (#38011918)
It's well known that to get to the front page you have to submit then get two dozen friends (with good rep) to upvote you within a short period of time.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by the_mitsuhiko on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @08:18AM (#38011998)
The post was on the front page for a while before it was removed.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by yorwba on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @10:49AM (#38013432)
https://hnrankings.info/38001924/ has it on the front page only for one sample and it dropped off to rank 36 five minutes later.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by xeromal on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @11:31AM (#38013869)
Anecdata but I saw it on the front page for a while. I thought this post was just following in that one's footsteps.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by the_mitsuhiko on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @11:53AM (#38014099)
Since the moderation log is hidden I can only guess what happened. But last year we got the confirmation of the removal via email and the explanation was that the post wasn't "that interesting". https://twitter.com/chadwhitacre_/status/1716947994338021885

I expected this again and thus kept monitoring the index page actively. The post stayed on there for quite a while and suddenly dropped off to the second page and then a while later completely.

Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by radicalbyte on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:19PM (#38016267)
Crazy I missed that. That certainly damages the trust I have in this site - it already benefits YC to have this community, they don't need to play favorites.

It feels like we're being treated as a sales funnel when they pull tricks like that.

Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by apitman on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:33PM (#38016463)
You can get on the front page with far less than a couple dozen upvotes
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by gurchik on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @10:52AM (#38013460)
> The guidelines define “interesting” as “anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.” Surely a real contribution to the OSS sustainability crisis counts?

Arguing about whether the submission meets the guidelines is pointless when it ignores that users downvote what isn't interesting in their own opinion. The moderators are never going to artificially keep a submission active after users have downvoted it just because it meets a definition in the guidelines.

Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by thinkmassive on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @11:49AM (#38014063)
Is it possible to downvote a submission? Do you mean flagging?

That doesn’t seem appropriate for something that’s simply uninteresting, based on the site guidelines:

> If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it.

Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by dragonwriter on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @11:54AM (#38014101)
Uninteresting is off-topic, per the guidelines. “On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.” (emphasis added)
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by yayitswei on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @12:23PM (#38014460)
When you have 500 points you gain the ability to downvote.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by corobo on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @01:08PM (#38015168)
That's only for comments, as far as I can see you can't downvote a submission
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by whit537 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @12:00PM (#38014172)
It is curious that users would downvote/flag our post yesterday but not Colin's post today, which begins, "Yesterday I read a great article from Sentry". I agree it's kinda shouting into the wind to complain. Oh well. :)
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by bachmeier on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @12:09PM (#38014259)
Just add "in Rust" randomly to any part of the title and you're good to go.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by meiraleal on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @06:37AM (#38011336)
It is hilarious to see a spam-based company like Sentry complaining about some of their marketing stunts being rejected. The founder feels attacked that people can see their intention.

Is it good that big companies want to contribute to FOSS while making it a big marketing stunt? Well, it is only better than not contributing but it is not good for the community and won't get them praises from the people that CREATE FOSS CODE. I got no dollars from Sentry but still have to see their low quality content on top of every google search.

Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by dijit on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @06:58AM (#38011468)
> a spam-based company like Sentry

Sorry, I think you might have them confused with another company, perhaps something that is related to email marketing?

Sentry is a crash reporting system, and their open source self-hosted version is both free and 100% compatible with their hosted/paid version.

They (so far) have been good stewards of open source and they deserve to be marketed a bit better than others in the space.

FD: happy sentry hosted user here.

Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by armini on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @07:31AM (#38011676)
We loved working with Sentry & they have been huge champions of thanks.dev & the OS community.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by meiraleal on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @07:21AM (#38011614)
Yes my bad, I confused them with LogRocket.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by gurchik on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @10:46AM (#38013398)
Where is the evidence it was removed by a moderator? I know that's the first thought, but HN doesn't have many moderators, and usually the moderators leave a comment on a submission after taking a moderator action.

I regularly come across a submission on the front page that looks interesting, read the article, then come back and notice it's been pushed to the 2nd or 3rd page. My assumption is that it was downvoted by a bunch of people, but it's still annoying. I wonder if there are any sites that track these movements?

Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by whit537 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @11:24AM (#38013784)
They definitely modded us last year (I emailed) and the hnrankings chart shows two definite drops this year. :shrug:
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by ak217 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @11:22AM (#38013761)
Speaking of Sentry's program... I recently received a notification that as an open source developer, I am eligible for a payout from this program. Excited, I logged in to eventually find out that the payout amounted to... $15.

Don't get me wrong, I really appreciate the thought and effort that went into this, and I really hope more companies that use open source software follow suit, but I wish they would adjust their formula to not bother with the payout if it's less than a certain amount. It's just more hassle than it's worth, and the nice gesture can easily be mistaken for something else when it gets that low.

Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by schmidp on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @11:52AM (#38014083)
They talk about their reasoning and this specific issue in the announcement.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by whit537 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @12:12PM (#38014301)
Sorry ak217. :(

It's $15 per month so $180 allocated overall. Would it be more worth it for you if it were paid out in one lump sum for the year vs. doled out monthly?

Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by ghsgvxd on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @12:24PM (#38014468)
On the other hand $15 is a lot of money to some people.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by ak217 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @12:58PM (#38014996)
Thanks for clarifying. I missed the part about this being a recurring monthly payout - $180 does clear the threshold of what I'd consider a significant donation, so I appreciate that.

I don't mind it being spread out monthly. I think it would help if the process made it a bit more clear what to expect (in terms of the total payout and timeline) in the initial message and/or the UI.

Again, I really appreciate the thought and work that goes not only into this program but also into getting other companies on board.

Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by whit537 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @01:02PM (#38015055)
Good feedback, thanks, I'll share with the Thanks.dev crew.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by armini on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @08:59PM (#38020404)
thanks, we got the feedback & it's a valid point :)
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by kelnos on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @01:50PM (#38015796)
Is there a particular reason for the monthly payment when you already know (and have?) the total for the year? If it were me, I'd rather have money in my hand now instead of later.
Re:Tarsnap has given 2^18 dollars to open source by whit537 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @05:38PM (#38018752)
Mostly a design choice on Thanks.dev and GitHub Sponsors parts. I would be fine to give it all at once, especially since conceptually for me it's payment for the past year.