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Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by trogdor on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @01:22AM (#38009423)
>with hundreds of thousands of Tesla vehicles logging millions of miles a month, I feel like we’d be hearing non-stop reports of destruction

Why do you believe that Tesla vehicles are driving millions of miles a month on autopilot?

I suspect that autopilot accounts for a vanishingly small percentage of Tesla miles-driven. Mostly because it sucks, but also because of how hard it is to not miss a nag on a long road trip, with the result that you are locked out of autopilot until your next stop.

(Yes, even when paying attention to the road, with your hands on the wheel. Hell, autopilot locks you out if you exceed 85 mph for more than a few seconds by pressing the accelerator, such as when passing. This is true even in places where the speed limit is 85 mph, and the slower end of the flow of traffic is 95 mph.)

I love the performance of my Model S Plaid. Autopilot, however, is a joke.

Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by nohuck13 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @01:49AM (#38009557)
"This is true even in places where the speed limit is 85 mph, and the slower end of the flow of traffic is 95 mph."

Where do you drive where the speed limit is 85 mph?

Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by gambiting on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:05AM (#38009650)
Poland? 140km/h is the motorway speed limit. Admittedly there aren't that many Teslas here. But they are extremely popular in Germany and you see people drive them at silly speeds.
Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by shanti2001 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:08AM (#38009668)
no
Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by gambiting on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:50AM (#38009956)
>>no

Care to expand?

Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by flohofwoe on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:54AM (#38009978)
"Extremely popular in Germany" is a bit of a stretch, from googling around, there are only around 40k Teslas out of 48 million cars overall in Germany (which is about 0.08%).
Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by gambiting on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @04:43AM (#38010649)
Well, yes - I think what I really meant was that they are extremely popular[among electric cars]. Whenever I drive through Germany and stop at an autohof all tesla chargers are always occupied, and you see quite a lot of them on the roads just driving around. But you're right, 40k is nothing in such a big country.
Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by BtM909 on Thursday October 26, 2023 @07:02AM (#38023995)
It's a bit of a stretch to just randomly drop some numbers... In the US in the last three Q's the marketshare of Tesla is 0,003868139%
Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by kwhitefoot on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @01:27PM (#38015462)
Some German cars are driven at sillier speeds. I've been on the autobahn driving my Model S at well over 200 kph and been passed quite quickly by big German cars.
Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by gundmc on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @02:22AM (#38009760)
Highway 130 outside Austin, Texas has an 85 mph zone.
Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by bumby on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @11:30AM (#38013853)
There are a number of highways in Texas with an 85 mph limit.
Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by F-W-M on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @03:46AM (#38010313)
> This is true even in places where the speed limit is 85 mph, and the slower end of the flow of traffic is 95 mph.

Once traffic rules are enforced by autonomous cars that don't let you go over the speed limit, we can start raising the limit to more realistic levels. I guess currently it is priced in that everyone goes over by x km/h.

Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by salawat on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @11:22AM (#38013759)
>Once traffic rules are enforced by autonomous cars that don't let you go over the speed limit, we can start raising the limit to more realistic levels. I guess currently it is priced in that everyone goes over by x km/h.

Bloody noghtmare fuel that, but it's been the inexhorable direction manufacturers and Governments have been pushing for for a while.

Stop making things that enable people more than it constrains them. The act of velvet glove societal manipulation is pretty damn obnoxious once you realize it's a thing.

Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by kbos87 on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @04:21AM (#38010519)
Tesla reported that there were 400,000 cars in the US and Canada who had access to FSD Beta in January 2023, so I don’t think that’s at all hard to believe.

Edit: Looks like back in January they were adding 10M cumulative miles driven per month (roughly) - https://insideevs.com/news/633328/tesla-fsd-beta-now-active-...

Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by trogdor on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @01:39PM (#38015627)
Assuming those data are accurate, it looks like you’re right.

Surprising, but it is what it is.

Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by jsight on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @09:41AM (#38012668)
I probably use AP >80% of the time on the highway. From observing comments in the local Tesla groups, I'm sure there are plenty of people who behave similarly.

Millions of miles per month doesn't surprise me at all.

Re:California suspends GM Cruise's autonomous vehicle deploy... by sgustard on Wednesday October 25, 2023 @12:22PM (#38014445)
Wow, I've had much more positive experiences with Autopilot on multi-hour highway trips. No shutoffs, no phantom braking in the last year or two. Autopilot on the highway is so much better than any other car I've driven with adaptive cruise. Anyway, the parent is comparing city and highway self-driving and they are completely different.