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Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by m_a_g on Monday October 23, 2023 @08:28AM (#37984707)
The first image is quite disturbing. I wasn't ready for that. Maybe we need tags for those kinds of images.
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by bloopernova on Monday October 23, 2023 @08:40AM (#37984825)
I wish sites had standardized on NSFL in addition to marking things NSFW.

Or work like the conventional commits standard, and use "CW(nudity)" and "CW(gore)" where CW = Content Warning.

But then you'd have people pedantically arguing over exactly what words to use. Maybe tags instead? "CW(nature,gore,sea,flesh)".

Of course then you'd be relying on people's good graces to classify the links correctly. I have some hope that at least a sizable minority would use the content warnings correctly, mostly because of Lemmy and Mastodon. On the fediverse, people often make an effort to describe the images they post in descriptive text, so maybe they'd classify links well enough?

Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by lagniappe on Monday October 23, 2023 @08:42AM (#37984842)
HN is one of the last places that needs trigger warnings and content warnings.
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by demondemidi on Monday October 23, 2023 @08:49AM (#37984907)
And how exactly does a trigger warning hurt you in any way shape or form? If an utterly harmless trigger warning triggers you so easily, well guess what…
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by Tao3300 on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:41AM (#37985478)
Excellent point. I'll take trigger warnings as long as there is a "Trigger Warning: Trigger warnings" warning. Thanks for suggesting it.
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by demondemidi on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:43AM (#37985503)
Perfect!
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by kcplate on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:14AM (#37985149)
Because it will get abused and used as a tool for content suppression by the bad actors on here. Just like flagging is used for a similar purpose occasionally on here.
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by demondemidi on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:42AM (#37985491)
Do you get flagged often by the bad actors? Because after a decade being on here the only things that get flagged are the worst of the worst. The two mods are pretty good about it. This makes me wonder why you’re so worried.
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by kcplate on Monday October 23, 2023 @08:04PM (#37993300)
Rarely flagged, but when it happens it’s often by someone overly upset about some comment that was not a completely mainstream opinion (but not extreme either) that I made on some innocuous topic that they feel the need to be the zealous self-appointed content police.

However, I see it nearly daily because I consume HN using a feed reader and don’t rely on the HN homepage at all. So in my list of HN stories I see nothing flagged in my reader and will often pull up a post that should be totally appropriate for HN and hardly controversial at all just to see it now flagged and every so often interesting commentary completely shut down.

But I am not worried, because if this site gets to the point where we see these self-appointed censors make this place an uninteresting I’ll just move on.

Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by rgoulter on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:46AM (#37985543)
This has some good discussions as to why people like (or don't like) trigger warnings. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/21677026209213...

Overall, studies across a range of trigger warning types/groups have not found there's a significantly beneficial effect (and have found some minor negative effects).

Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by demondemidi on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:53AM (#37985658)
Interesting. What it didn’t cover is people who rage against them.

It also didn’t cover types of trigger warnings, referred to people who consider trauma part of their “core identity”, and use self reporting of ptsd. I find any online survey that uses self reporting to define the population to be lesser quality. Like when pre-Kinsey researchers did the self reported penis size study.

Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by rgoulter on Monday October 23, 2023 @10:20AM (#37986019)
> What it didn’t cover is people who rage against them.

For "Cross-cultural communication tensions", I think this essay is excellent: https://status451.com/2016/01/06/splain-it-to-me/

Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by chasd00 on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:04AM (#37985053)
We would need things like CW(rust, JavaScript) etc
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by bloopernova on Monday October 23, 2023 @08:44AM (#37984869)
I was speaking more generally, not specifically about HN.
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by Tao3300 on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:39AM (#37985444)
Why a system that beats around the bush? Just say "(Female Breasts)" or "(Blood and Guts)"
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by kaliqt on Monday October 23, 2023 @08:38AM (#37984800)
I'm going to be honest, here we are techies which are supposed to be intellectual to an extent. We should be able to handle more violent truths natively: e.g. seeing images like that.

Through understanding, we can dismiss a chunk of the fear/repulsion we might feel for images such as those.

Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by colanderman on Monday October 23, 2023 @08:46AM (#37984883)
We're not all robots.

Images have emotional impact.

Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by 2-718-281-828 on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:06AM (#37985066)
there is no "we" on a website like this and most readers here are certainly not intellectual. maybe intellectual to an extent ... but everybody is intellectual to an extent.
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by itishappy on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:10AM (#37985107)
> here we are techies which are supposed to be intellectual to an extent. We should be able to handle more violent truths natively

I think many view stoicism in the face of such imagery to be a sign of an enlightened mind, but I disagree. Empathy is a form of intelligence. The images from the article are disturbing, and I'd argue they should be. That so many of us are quick to discount the obvious pain and suffering within is concerning to me, and I'd even label it a deficiency. We should feel upset by death and dismemberment.

Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by surgical_fire on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:42AM (#37985487)
Nature is brutal and deadly. If the orcas don't eat they will starve.

It is not a case of lacking empathy, it is more a case of recognizing that those images, as gory is they might be, are simply depictions of raw nature functioning as it should. Predator eats prey, and both play a role in this cycle. I personally find it fascinating, especially as humans evolved past the need to adapt to nature, and rather manipulate nature to better suit themselves.

Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by soco on Monday October 23, 2023 @10:26AM (#37986092)
It may be me living in a (wrong) bubble, but I have the impression that everything must be more gruesome nowadays. Take Hollywood movies where every shot must splatter blood on the walls behind, successful comics are all gory, even in books you'd see all this described in every detail. So these journalists are simply following a trend.
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by YouSuck2 on Monday October 23, 2023 @08:31AM (#37984739)
Not relevant... contact the admins
Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by bloopernova on Monday October 23, 2023 @08:51AM (#37984931)
It is very sad that people are downvoting you for finding something disturbing.

Since the spring/summer, I feel like I've noticed a lot more downvotes being handed out. I really wish I had access to anonymized HN voting data so I could see whether it's a small group of accounts doing it, or if there's other patterns of behaviour.

Oh, and people are allowed to find things disturbing!! Whatever the experience of the generic HN user might be, there's a myriad of reasons that someone is upset by horrific images. It's like mocking someone for not watching cartel torture videos or something!

Let people enjoy things, and let people dislike things without bullying.

Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by MichaelZuo on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:28AM (#37985302)
> Oh, and people are allowed to find things disturbing!!

Doesn't this also apply to those who are downvoting the parent?

They may find the parent's comment itself to be disturbing.

Maybe a small fraction of the readerbase are random downvoters, another misanthropes, another just don't like tangential remarks about images period, etc...

Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by h2odragon on Monday October 23, 2023 @09:01AM (#37985023)
With all sympathy; I must advise you that the world is full of disturbing images and even experiences. You are very likely to experience more of them. Perhaps you would be happier in the long term if you found some accommodation and acceptance.

Not that you have to participate, but realize that trying to avoid bad things can only result in avoiding much of the world. Even tho the bad things are present, there's many good things there too.

Re:Orcas are learning terrifying new behaviors. Are they get... by BrandoElFollito on Monday October 23, 2023 @04:16PM (#37990954)
I went to the article to check the image and it looks like a orca attacking something. What was disturbing in this image?

I am genuinely asking because with the amount of brutality we see everyday that picture did not look bad to me.