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Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by ethanbond on Sunday October 22, 2023 @01:15PM (#37977178)
Yes it is actually hard to kill a chicken per day, which is why societies that have to grow and kill their own food don’t eat a chicken per day.

Only the hyper-industrialized meat producers get even close to that.

Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by Exoristos on Sunday October 22, 2023 @01:30PM (#37977355)
Where do you guys come up with this stuff? When I was a teen in Appalachia, I butchered dozens of chickens a day, by hand, during canning season.
Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by ethanbond on Sunday October 22, 2023 @01:41PM (#37977435)
I think you lost the thread. The claim was factory farming doesn’t change the volume of meat consumption and production, only the geographic location of it.

It is economically not viable for every American family to produce and kill their own 2lb of (currently, on average) consumed meat per day. That is why we have factory farming and why it dominates our food supply: economies of scale.

It has nothing to do with whether it’s physically or psychologically possible to kill x chickens per day.

Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by mcpackieh on Sunday October 22, 2023 @03:08PM (#37978152)
I think you've lost track of the difference between other people and yourself. The words you're using seem to talk about how other people feel, but you're actually talking about how you feel and assuming that any difference between the two is rooted in ignorance.

> "your kids’ reaction"

Maybe this should be "my reaction as a kid", since you don't know that person's kids.

> "The emotions one feels"

Should be "the emotions I feel"

> "If people had to see their livestock suffer, they would make a different calculation"

Should probably be "seeing it changed how I feel".

People are more than the sum of our experiences, two people raised in the same environment with the same kind of experiences can have completely divergent values. Therefore it's wrong to assume that people would share your values if they had your experiences. In the case of meat eating particularly this should be obvious; the reality is that most people exposed to the industry, either for the first time as adults or as kids, don't turn vegetarian.

Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by ethanbond on Sunday October 22, 2023 @03:16PM (#37978211)
Go run the experiments!

I’m putting my bet on what those experiments would show, which is people’s consumption patterns would be adversely impacted by more in-depth knowledge of the food supply chain.

This is also where meat producers place their bets and why they fight tooth and nail against transparency within their industry.

Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by Exoristos on Monday October 23, 2023 @02:26AM (#37982220)
I'm sorry -- how expensive do you think chickens are? In fact, if everyone had them, they'd most likely be freely shared. You seem very out of touch with your own species.
Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by ethanbond on Monday October 23, 2023 @07:27AM (#37984158)
Yet just very mysteriously… people don’t all have chickens, nor do they give them away for free… almost as if it’s not worth the time/money/space…