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Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by Kye on Sunday October 22, 2023 @08:48AM (#37974910)
Dave Chappelle walked away from money out of principle when it came to making jokes about people like him for white audiences, but happily cracks jokes about trans people. He's a has-been and a hypocrite and Carlin would end his career.
Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by hfuyf65 on Sunday October 22, 2023 @08:56AM (#37974974)
Disagree, but can you substantiate hypocrite claim? Also cancellation chance seems to depend on how 'big' you are. Chapelle wasn't cancelled despite attempts. I suspect Carlin would get in trouble, but since he had a strong following, it is hardly a given.
Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by Kye on Sunday October 22, 2023 @08:58AM (#37974985)
Refused to make jokes at the expense of one marginalized and vulnerable group he's part of, makes jokes at the expense of another he isn't. That's hypocrisy. The motivation to walk away was self-interested, not principled.
Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by thrway63245 on Sunday October 22, 2023 @09:17AM (#37975094)
I'm not sure how a group that has the entire society bending over backwards to serve their kink can be described as marginalized or vulnerable.
Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by hubco on Sunday October 22, 2023 @02:05PM (#37977635)
Men aren't an especially marginalised and vulnerable group, even when they're attempting to mimic women. In some jurisdictions, they've even passed laws to permit such men to use any women-only space, including where women are particularly vulnerable themselves, e.g. prisons. They're getting special privileges while women are having their rights taken away.

This absurdity of pretending that men who call themselves women are actually women should certainly be open to mockery, as it's so ridiculous - both in itself, and the fact that so many people are entertaining this misogynistic delusion.

Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by hfuyf65 on Sunday October 22, 2023 @03:19PM (#37978233)
Hmm? The mere fact that there is a space exclusive to women ( key word 'safe space') should give a clear indicator, who has super powers in the relationship between the genders. Men can't even create one without weird focus on exclusionary practices, but the same is done by women is that is hailed as some weird glass ceiling.

If there is an absurdity, it is in this type of framing. Imagine, men entering women spaces! Don't they know their place? Wait..

Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by hubco on Sunday October 22, 2023 @06:59PM (#37979837)
> The mere fact that there is a space exclusive to women ( key word 'safe space') should give a clear indicator, who has super powers in the relationship between the genders.

Yes, it's the sex that has such a high proportion of predatory, dangerous and creepy individuals that the other sex need segregated spaces for their own safety and dignity. Which is also the sex of most of those who are actively trying - and often succeeding - to undermine and eradicate these safe spaces under the guise of so-called "trans rights".

The end goal of these men is that they be permitted, by law and policy, to disregard women's consent and boundaries with impunity. Not only is this wholly unacceptable, but the arguments they are using in pursuit of this goal are ridiculous. So of course comedians are going to ridicule this. I'm glad they're doing so; this misogynist activism needs all the mockery it can get, it's part of the path towards undoing the damage already caused.

Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by pauldenton on Sunday October 22, 2023 @03:14PM (#37978197)
What's wrong with making jokes about trans people? Christians never seem to get bothered when people make jokes about them. Not like Jews or Muslims, especially since October 7th Maybe Jews and Muslims and Trans people should be more like Christians. When someone is making a joke at your expense, turn the other cheek
Re:George Carlin's "Soft Language" by silenced_trope on Sunday October 22, 2023 @04:20PM (#37978721)
Right?

What is this thing about some groups being "off limits" while others are fetishized and babied?

There's no longer anything "brave" in making a joke about a "safe group" to joke about.

In today's day and age since trans is the new sacred cow amongst certain crowds in the Western world, it seems natural that that would be the subject of jokes.