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Re:Inkscape Cloud Architect by ahoka on Sunday October 22, 2023 @04:07AM (#37973662)
What a useless crap. It’s an over engineered documentation framework focusing on all the wrong things so some agile consultant can sell more cool aid. I don’t trust anything that is designed someone who last did real projects in the 2000’s OOP Java enterprise craze.
Re:Inkscape Cloud Architect by mkl95 on Sunday October 22, 2023 @04:16AM (#37973706)
It's not a hard science. Take the parts that work for your team and scrap the ones that don't.
Re:Inkscape Cloud Architect by politelemon on Sunday October 22, 2023 @04:34AM (#37973783)
This is the important bit. C4 in its entirety isn't useful to many orgs and teams, and can be unnecessary overkill. You might end up picking 1 or 2 layers for yourself.

You don't have to stick to their software either, use DrawIO if that's what you prefer, but understand the main concepts that C4 is trying to impart about the separation, what goes on the arrows, and how useless icons can be.

Re:Inkscape Cloud Architect by npsimons on Sunday October 22, 2023 @08:10AM (#37974664)
> Take the parts that work for your team and scrap the ones that don't.

Precisely. Any time someone utters the descriptor "best practice", at best, you do yourself a favor by examining it with a critical eye and judge whether it is a good practice to follow (and a good fit for your project) or not. At worst, you beat back the consultants framing it as "the one and only way to do things (with the implication that everything else is wrong)."

Re:Inkscape Cloud Architect by happytiger on Sunday October 22, 2023 @12:44PM (#37976925)
The voice of reason always comes from the trenches.
Re:Inkscape Cloud Architect by lwhi on Sunday October 22, 2023 @08:52AM (#37974938)
I don't know whether your comment is useful or not because all you're doing is ranting and providing personal opinion.

Your comment is useless to me; so ultimately I'm not likely to give it any credence.

Re:Inkscape Cloud Architect by arcbyte on Sunday October 22, 2023 @10:09AM (#37975518)
It's 4 diagrams. You can't get much less engineered than that.

Whats your background that you have simpler alternatives?

Re:Inkscape Cloud Architect by lionkor on Sunday October 22, 2023 @10:20AM (#37975619)
So so much agree with this. People who think in terms of OOP and design patterns (i.e. bandaids) will think "how else are you supposed to model solutions"?

But yes, this is fundamentally an OOP thing, and especially the component layer is very much just fantasy. In no real OOP software do these meat reusable components not have super strong binding to each other. Yeah you may have the SignIn controller and the ResetPassword controller both talking to the SecurityComponent, but in the end that's guaranteed to be implemented in such a way that you cant use any of them without all the others connected, and its likely that testing this means writing a mock for each of them that is so complex it may as well have its own tests.

They are thinking of their problem, and building their solution entirely out of blocks made from the words that make up the problem. "We need users to be able to sign in and reset their password" becomes SignIn component and ResetPassword component, when really this is just a matter of changing a hash and possibly some encryption keys, and could just be a handful of validate(), reset() et al functions on the security module.

Re:Inkscape Cloud Architect by lwhi on Sunday October 22, 2023 @05:38PM (#37979314)
Architecture covers the macro, not the micro.