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Re:The Decline of Computers as a General Purpose Technology ... by rrr_oh_man on Sunday October 22, 2023 @02:13AM (#37973217)
Not disagreeing with your point in general, but:

Not everyone can become an architect or water systems engineer at 50, after having worked a "general assistant" type office job for many years.

I think that (and its consequences) might be the biggest short term societal risk of automation in an aging society.

How would you solve this problem?

Re:The Decline of Computers as a General Purpose Technology ... by tuatoru on Sunday October 22, 2023 @02:30AM (#37973307)
If there are resources available, some entrepreneur will figure out a way to make use of them.
Re:The Decline of Computers as a General Purpose Technology ... by asdff on Sunday October 22, 2023 @02:58AM (#37973407)
Why can't you become these things at 50? Considering you can become them at 23, having worked perhaps in fast food for a few years prior?
Re:The Decline of Computers as a General Purpose Technology ... by auggierose on Sunday October 22, 2023 @05:15AM (#37973940)
Good question! Wait until you are 50, maybe you can answer it then ;-)
Re:The Decline of Computers as a General Purpose Technology ... by JohnFen on Sunday October 22, 2023 @12:51PM (#37976983)
I (and most of my social circle) am over 50, and I can answer that question: there's no solid reason you can't train for and be successful in a different career later in life. I've seen it happen too often to think otherwise.

Whether or not you want to is an entirely different question, of course.

Re:The Decline of Computers as a General Purpose Technology ... by auggierose on Sunday October 22, 2023 @03:21PM (#37978251)
Not there yet, but slowly getting there. Of course you can train for a different career after you are 50, but you will also have a good idea what kind of career is not a good fit for you (anymore). So just because certain careers are now looking for people, doesn't mean that these are a good fit for you.
Re:The Decline of Computers as a General Purpose Technology ... by JohnFen on Sunday October 22, 2023 @04:17PM (#37978699)
Yes indeed!

Our youth is when the majority of what we do is try things out to see what fits and what doesn't. In our older years, most of that experimentation is behind us and we have a pretty solid idea of what fits us and what doesn't.

The trick is that the amount of experimentation should never be reduced to zero.

Re:The Decline of Computers as a General Purpose Technology ... by ethbr1 on Monday October 23, 2023 @08:05AM (#37984494)
I'd imagine the over-X disinclination to retrain is mostly a discomfort with being uncomfortable.

By X, in a single career, you've generally got a pretty good handle on things (and life).

In contrast to 20/30, when everything is constantly new and you are constantly uncomfortable.

Thus, big difference in how well the uncomfortable muscle is exercised. 20/30 -> novel situation you suck at -> business as usual. Over X -> " -> WTF.

And, as you say, the key to retaining that capability is... make sure you continue exercising that muscle!

Re:The Decline of Computers as a General Purpose Technology ... by rrr_oh_man on Sunday October 22, 2023 @12:15PM (#37976660)
I appreciate that question!

Something something about age and responsibilities and tiredness and not having trained for that, but... it's worth it to think about it, anyway — at least as risk-mitigation for yourself, going forward.

Maybe we'll all end up as plumbers?