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Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by roydivision on Thursday October 19, 2023 @07:27AM (#37941336)
Em, this is a private company. I see what you mean, but this hardly points to some dystopia.
Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by LightHugger on Thursday October 19, 2023 @07:32AM (#37941392)
That's cute. With sufficient size and influence over your life, a private company is a form of government.
Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by malka on Thursday October 19, 2023 @10:34AM (#37943463)
sounds like an argument for nationalization.
Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by ryandrake on Thursday October 19, 2023 @10:48AM (#37943654)
Meta only has as much influence over our lives as we give it. I don't use Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, or any Meta product. What influence does the company have over me that even remotely rises to the level of "government?"
Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by philpem on Thursday October 19, 2023 @11:14AM (#37944007)
Bingo.

Even a relatively tiny company can have a huge impact on your life. Say you're interested in a niche hobby, so niche there's only one company who organises meet-ups and events around that hobby. The best friend of the chairman runs the main online forum for that hobby.

If you have a falling-out with either of those people, or their friends - you're going to lose all the social aspects of your hobby, and they're probably going to slander you to everyone they know. And people will repeat the lies, assuming that the chairman of the major event of the niche hobby wouldn't lie... and on and on.

The people who seek these roles absolutely love this, though homeowners' associations are probably the more familiar example of the same power structures.

Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by johnnyanmac on Thursday October 19, 2023 @11:34AM (#37944332)
>so niche there's only one company who organises meet-ups and events around that hobby.

If it's that niche that no one else forms groups around it, that sounds like an issue in and of itself.

>If you have a falling-out with either of those people, or their friends - you're going to lose all the social aspects of your hobby, and they're probably going to slander you to everyone they know.

sounds like your average small town experience. People can be cruel, they don't need a company to enable that.

Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by roydivision on Friday October 20, 2023 @09:27AM (#37955676)
That's your choice, law is not
Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by garba_dlm on Thursday October 19, 2023 @07:34AM (#37941408)
sure, ok... but in some places it functions as a public utility

further, there was a principle of roman law that forbids this... then again the USA is not following those principles (civil law) but common law which means you can disregard what I say

you seem like you haven't actually read the referenced book, but only heard about it

Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by K0balt on Thursday October 19, 2023 @08:03AM (#37941697)
When a company becomes pervasive enough to become a feature of the ambient social, commercial or economic environment, the argument of “its a private company” loses its validity.

At that point the company serves a vital public function, and its rules and actions bleed into public governance.

Which is a great argument for limiting the scope and size of companies that interface directly with the public.

Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by kobalsky on Thursday October 19, 2023 @08:04AM (#37941706)
wasn’t this mere private company recently in the spotlight for a scandal related to getting a us president elected through manipulation ?

maybe you should be holding them to a different set of standards

Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by nrdxp on Thursday October 19, 2023 @09:11AM (#37942409)
This endlessly parroted argument argument is so tired and lazy already. How big do these companies have to get before you turn your brain back on?
Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by squarefoot on Thursday October 19, 2023 @10:01AM (#37943047)
Exactly. This is a private company, and unlike a nation in which you can still have some word with your vote by becoming automatically a citizen from birth, you must buy your place as a shareholder in order to have a voice in whatever direction the company is going to. Now imagine a private company that slowly eats every spot in which users could buy or sell product and services; what would happen if say they one day decide to limit your business in there? Indeed you can still breathe, but the western world you're pretty much dead in every other way.
Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by henry2023 on Thursday October 19, 2023 @10:02AM (#37943058)
1 in 4 people in the world has an account in this private company.
Re:I'm banned for life from advertising on Meta. Because I t... by roydivision on Friday October 20, 2023 @09:25AM (#37955652)
And they would do well to understand what that actually means