Anecdote: I saw a Cybertruck driving on a highway in SF last week. Didn't get a great look but it was definitely real!

Well, I'm in that camp.

I've come to believe in the past 3 years that Tesla become a kind of investor fraud - promising impossible things and not delivering them, but getting the benefit of doubt since they did achieve incredible things in the early years.

I don't doubt that Cybertruck will see the streets - the same way Tesla Semi. Which one year after the official deliveries, is still an absolute mystery - no information whatsoever about it's real range, weight nor price. Kind of strange to me for a product that was supposedly released 11 months ago !

I've just checked the Cybertruck order page on https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck - still no price, still advertising that it's built with 'a nearly impenetrable exoskeleton' - which I believe the Release Candidates seen on the streets are not...

I'm not sure what you mean "no information whatsoever about it's real world range, weight nor price"

https://results-2023.runonless.com/truck/?day=1&depot=pepsic...

The Semi specs list "Fully Loaded at 82k lbs Gross Combination Weight" for their stats, maybe you're looking for something else?

Apparently price was/is listed somewhere, or maybe you have to deal with Tesla directly, because they are currently focused on fleets, and don't have to still set-up the increased charging infrastructure (?) https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/tesla-semi-prices-rele...

I've seen the links you listed - the range in this tests is given without the cargo weight - it's totally meaningless for a truck. For all we know, the truck could be almost empty, or almost fully loaded with extra batteries. We just don't know.

Don't you think that it should be easy to find the 'price was listed somewhere' ? We are talking about a product that was supposedly released 1 year ago. Where are independent reviews of it ? There are none.

That's odd. Previously Pepsico reported they were only getting decent range when hauling potato chips, i.e. air, and were limited to 100-odd miles delivering beverages (obviously going empty about half the way too).

I'm not a hater but I think it will bomb in most markets. IRL pics circulating, if real, don't look as sexy as the prototypes. And it's too radical in look. My two cents.

Pics I've seen actually had duct tape. Not surprised considering it is consistent with prior reports on Tesla quality.

This is an old myth by now

Just to check who is right, I did a simple search and found this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/1635zrm/c...

Looks like tape to me. How is it a myth?

To be fair, that image appears to be vehicles being transported after some sort of test.

Notice how dirty they all are, and how scuffed up some panels are. The tape appears to be in the exact same places for all of them, which might indicate some sort of video test (slow motion or similar).

I highly doubt real vehicles will be shipped to customers with tape on the exterior...

I'm sure they'll eventually produce the thing, but 1) will it actually be worth a damn? (radical new designs tend to have radical new problems) 2) will it sell in the numbers predicted? (focus groups loved the Pontiac Aztec, and I'd bet the majority of people who put down a whopping $100 for a preorder don't actually end up buying a truck)

I mean, it can’t be real. Just look at it. It has to be some elaborate prank and the real one will be unveiled and look normal. Like all the panels will pop off and you’ll have a sleek looking thing underneath.

In all seriousness, if it looked anything like a Rivian I may have had one at some point, but I could never see myself in a cybertruck.

> if it looked anything like a Rivian

Something along the lines of the R1T is what I had hoped Tesla was going to unveil. I was struck dumb by the CT when it rolled onto the stage, and instantly hated it. But I use my trucks as trucks, not as a lifestyle vehicle.

And I'll eat my hat if a $39K CT is an option at all. Or the $49K option, for that matter. Either at all or meaningfully available.

We all know the first model will be the most expensive model with “promises” that the 40k model will be available in the future. See 35k Model 3 for reference on how that turned out.

I asked a supplier who supplies Tesla and SpaceX. They said that there's no way this thing is coming in at under 100k.

Cybertruck being vaporware is a basically fact at this point. They're releasing a car that looks alike, but it's nothing like what was initially advertised.

It's not an exoskeleton, bullet proof, easy to manufacture car with 500 miles of range and $40k price tag.

It will have the same name but be completely different under the stainless steel than what was promised 4 years ago.